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Japanese sentences untranslated to English are now down to just 59.
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentence...fferent/page:1
Now 54. Come on folks, just a few more to do. :-)
Broken links:
This sentence
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/87121
was linked to this one
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/316587
which doesn't exist anymore.
Form translation
Google docs ("Form (1)" -> "Edit form" or "Edit this form", I'm not sure from the english name of the menu bm)
All of them needs translation, all of them are not translated
German:
https://spreadsheets.google.com...nc&hl=en#gid=0
Russian:
https://spreadsheets.google.com...lE&hl=en#gid=0
Spanish:
https://spreadsheets.google.com...1E&hl=en#gid=0
Italian:
https://spreadsheets.google.com...0E&hl=en#gid=0
Polish:
https://spreadsheets.google.com...nc&hl=en#gid=0
Japanese:
https://spreadsheets.google.com...Wc&hl=en#gid=0
and the translations are public
They are not public. :( I can’t open the page.
Please give us the right to view them.
i said that "nothing translated" by saying "all of them are not translated"
bm is bookmark
And
French:
https://spreadsheets.google.com...Xc&hl=tr#gid=0
needs translation check
Just wanted to change mi profile to report about my humble language knowledges, but didnt find a form to fill out, what i found strange in a langauge wiki.
Wollte soeben meine bescheidenen Sprachkenntnisse in mein Profil eintragen, habe aber kein Formular dafür gefunden, was ich seltsam fand für ein Sprach-Wiki.
Mi ĵus volis ŝanĝi mian profilon por reporti pri miaj etaj lingvoscioj, sed mi ne trovis formularon por ĉi-lasta, kio min iom mirigis en lingvo-vikio.
Yes, there is no form (yet). See point 12: http://blog.tatoeba.org/2010/02...n-tatoeba.html
Ja, es gibt (noch) kein Formular. Siehe auch Punkt 12:
https://docs.google.com/documen...d.761d8fd2d3f1
Jes, formularo ne jam ekzistas. Vido regulon 12:
https://docs.google.com/documen...Y&hl=en&pli=1#
(Das passt gut, ich habe gerade eben versucht, mein eigenes Profil zu "internationalisieren", war nicht gerade einfach^^)
Wäre mir zu mühsam, alles in meinem Profil in alle Sprachen zu übersetzen. Macht jedenfalls niucht so viel spaß wie die sätze. Daher bei mir Text nur auf deutsch, dafür ein, wie ich finde schlaues +/- -System:
zB 3 aus 5 "Sternen"/Punkten:
+ + + - -
zB 7 von 10:
+++++++---
andere Möglichkeiten wären natürlcih Prozentzahlen wie 60% und 70% oder Brüche, wie 3/5, oder 7/10.
Dein System ist auf jeden Fall gut verständlich, aber für mich unmöglich anwendbar - ich kann nämlich nicht in Prozent angeben, wie gut ich eine Sprache spreche^^. Das System wäre also exakter als ich ;) ...
*Vidu
Ach, ja: Ich glaube Sprachcodes sind am internationalsten:
zb de oder deu für Deutsch, eo oder epo für Esperanto etc.
Saluton al cxiuj!
Kiel vi eble vidas, mi ne cxiam havas tauxgan rimedon cxapeligi miajn skribajxojn, ekz sur la iphone de mia edzino.
Tial mi volas proponi al vi, ke oni instalu cxapeligan javascript-on por tiuj uzantoj kiel mi.
Kion vi opinias pri tiu propono?
Tatoebae,
Jakov
Hm, as it seems that the working language here is english, i will rewrite my message in english:
As you may see in the message before i don't always have proper means of adding "^" to the Esperanto diacritic letters (ĉ, ĥ, ĝ, ĵ, ŝ and ŭ as well as their upper-case equivalents) but am obliged to use x-system transcription on my iPhone for example.
That's why I propose to install optional JavaScript for those users like me. This could sometimes also be needed in other languages i guess. Maybe the way the wikipedia handles this could be a good example too: there one can add the letters by clicking a certain link.
tatoeba regards,
Jakov
Yes, I think it’s a nice feature, but now we really lack programmers. Currently everybody is developing a new Python version of Tatoeba, and I guess you have to wait for this feature to appear.
Unfortunately, sysko (our main programmer) is very busy right now.
As a temporary measure, you can allow moderators to replace X-system to normal Esperanto letters in your sentences. (You can write what you allow moderators to do in your profile)
> Hm, as it seems that the working language here is english
Well, you might have written in French. :)
We don’t formally have a working language. You can write in any language.
But more people speak English, so you have to wait less for the answer. :)
Does anybody know a javascript bookmarklet for this oit there?
Cxu iu konas javascript-an bookmarklet-on por cxi tio?
Die Arbeitssprache ist nicht Englisch, es spricht nur leider nicht jeder alle Sprachen. Deine Nachricht richtet sich an das Entwicklerteam, dort spricht man Französisch und Englisch und einige andere Sprachen, wo Esperanto aber meines Wissens nach nicht dabei ist. Bei einer Nachricht in Esperanto musst du dann eben etwas länger warten, bis die Nachricht beim Adressaten angekommen ist (ich hoffe, sie täte es, gehe aber davon aus).
Tatoebae,
Muiriel
Mi esperas ke vi parolas germanan - mi regardis viajn kontribuojn ;)...
Is American English not listed in languages?
‘English’ is for both American and British English.
Tatoeba can’t put 2 flags for one language, so we’re using only British Flag. Yes, this is a bit misleading; CK has already pointed this out.
Tags can be used to show that sentence is only American or only British.
Now we have the following tags:
American English: http://tatoeba.org/eng/tags/sho...erican_English
American English Vocabulary: http://tatoeba.org/eng/tags/sho...ish_Vocabulary
British English Vocabulary: http://tatoeba.org/eng/tags/sho...ish_Vocabulary
British slang: http://tatoeba.org/eng/tags/sho.../British_slang
American English Spelling: http://tatoeba.org/eng/tags/sho...glish_Spelling
British Spelling: http://tatoeba.org/eng/tags/sho...itish_Spelling
British_Spelling ‘re’: http://tatoeba.org/eng/tags/sho..._Spelling__re_
British Spelling Double Ls: http://tatoeba.org/eng/tags/sho...ling_Double-Ls
British Spelling of Dr: http://tatoeba.org/eng/tags/sho...Spelling_of_Dr
British English Grammar: http://tatoeba.org/eng/tags/sho...nglish_Grammar
If you want to add a tag to your sentence, and you are not a trusted user, write the tag you'd like to add in the comments
Thursday WWWJDIC update summary
28 records deleted.
107 new records.
Broken links after duplicate removal script.
I thought this was fixed, but apparently not completely.
See
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/87121
which is shown linked to
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/316587
(but the latter no longer exists).
I don't know for the second sentence you've pointed, but the first one has been merged during the last "buggy" script. The current one can't fix the broken link. But I will see to make a one shot script, which will solve the "broken" links the buggy script made.
Sentence
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/147262
shown as linked to
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/267298
which doesn't exist.
Sentence
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/214515
shown as linked to
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/51807
which doesn't exist anymore.
> the first one has been merged during the last "buggy" script.
That's rather odd - I check the Japanese/English links twice a week.
Same thing here.
Original sentence
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/104003
shown linked to
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/299689
which doesn't exist now.
[not needed anymore- removed by CK]
My, somebody went to a lot of trouble. But the list got there first (and has 40 or so more sentences).
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences_lists/show/113/
Furigana is not displayed on the list page, unlike CK’s tag page.
It's certainly true that Tags have become way more popular than lists. There are still some things that tags don't do, though. There's no option to export sentences from tags, for example. *hint hint*
I spoke with Trang about translating the "how to be a good contributor" manual in other languages.
http://blog.tatoeba.org/2010/02...n-tatoeba.html
I think the reasons to do it are clear - to exclude less people from understanding the project, getting trusted_user etc.
The problem is clear too - it's much work. But maybe for some languages we can find more than one volunteer to divide the work. So I begin^^: Is there anyone who would help me translate the guide from English to German?
Si elle n'existe pas déjà, je veux bien m'occuper de la version francophone. Pouvez-vous confirmer qu'elle n'existe pas déjà ?
Je confirme qu'elle n'existe pas. Du moins pas à ma connaissance. Ce serait vraiment appréciable si vous pouviez vous en occuper !
Donc voilà, la traduction française est terminée.
https://docs8.google.com/docume...YOPdQn4&hl=fr#
J'invite tous les francophones qui n'ont pas encore lu le guide du contributeur Tatoeba à le lire. c'est non seulement très instructif, mais c'est sympa, aussi et ça répond à plein de questions que vous vous posez déjà.
Pour une transcription directe, je la trouve plutôt pas mal. Mais bon, il y a quelques endroits qui me titillent un peu l'oreille comme "Le plus nous sommes" qu'il ne m'a pas semblé en voir des masses dans ce que je lis d'habitude, ou bien le "Faites connaître votre amour" qui me parait un peu pompeux (sans compter le sous-entendu bien sur).
Pour ce type de document, il faudrait aller au-delà d'une traduction directe, mais malheureusement je n'ai pas la prose de Trang.
Ben tu peux la refaire...
et puis depuis 2 ans que tu es dans cette communauté, tu pourrais, pour commencer, montrer un peu de respect en appliquant la règle n°12...
Vendu !
Thank you sacredceltic, brauliobezerra and Shishir - you're great :) !
I will do the Portuguese translation.
And I can translate it into Spanish, if you want.
I finished! Here is the Spanish version:
https://docs.google.com/documen...E&hl=en&pli=1#
I'm ready to do the job in Polish, we've got a lot of new contributors recently, just tell me how to do this (e-mail? google-docs?).
Someday we will have a wiki, and it will be easier to manage this kind of content...
Until then, best solution (in my opinion) would be to use Google Docs, like GrizaLeono did. I will then add a link to your Google Doc. I will add it before the introduction in the original article.
Google Docs is practical because if you want to correct some mistakes in your translation, you can correct directly from your Google Doc, without having to send me your updated version and waiting for me to upload it :)
You can also share you Google document with other people, so that they can help you translate.
OK, here goes Polish translation of the manual. I took the liberty to add in the end some remarks about specifically Polish language issues in translating sentences. Hope it helps.
https://docs.google.com/documen...3wpLF0yQ&hl=pl
Thank you zipangu!! I added the link to your Google document :)
http://blog.tatoeba.org/2010/02...n-tatoeba.html
Thank you, MUIRIEL & TRANG!
Oh, wow, thank you very much, zipangu!
You're all so quick and I still didn't finish the German translation, but I promise I will (maybe in a week).
> The problem is clear too - it's much work.
Yeah, I think the original is too wordy. There should probably be a version cut down to the essentials that is about 1/5 the size of the full version.
Yes, the text is a bit long, but it explains quite well what contributors should do.
"how to be a good contributor" --> "Kiel esti bona kontribuanto"
Mi Esperantigis la anglan version kaj sendis la adreson al Muiriel.
I did translate the English version into Esperanto and I sent the address to Muiriel.
Koran dankon kaj gratulon Muiriel kaj GrizaLeono!
Mi ne faris nenion! Ni ŝuldas dankon nur al GrizaLeono :) !
Se vi konsentas, mi plusentos vian tradukon al Trang por publicaĵo. Denove koran dankon por tiun laboron - estas fantasta :) !
(Cetere, mi ne ankoraŭ ricevis vian retpoŝton... mia retpoŝtadreso finiĝi kun "@googlemail.com" [ne ..@gmail.com!])
*finiĝas
Mi sendos al vi la adreson, kie vi povos trovi ĝin en interreto kaj mi ankaŭ sendos kopion de la tradukaĵo.
Koran dankon. Bona ideo estas!
Kompreni la Tatoeba ideon gravas.
Nun estas esperanta traduko de la gvidilo "Kiel bone kunlabori ĉe Tatoeba" (Trang metis la ligilon sur la reto), gratulon al GrizaLeono! La ligilo estas ĉi tie:
https://docs.google.com/documen...Y&hl=en&pli=1#
Disdonu la ĝoja mesaĝon :) !
There's now an esperanto version of the guide of the good contributor thanks to GrizaLeono:
https://docs.google.com/documen...Y&hl=en&pli=1#
Es gibt jetzt auch eine deutsche Version der Anleitung "Wie man ein guter Mitarbeiter wird.":
https://docs.google.com/documen...nEixs7UcNpC55Q
Ich kann nicht dafür garantieren, dass ich sprachlich immer die besten Lösungen gefunden habe - ich bin kein professioneller Übersetzer, aber inhaltlich könnt ihr euch darauf verlassen, da ich schon lange auf Tatoeba aktiv bin und die Regeln gut kenne.
Wenn ihr Fehler findet, könnt ihr mich gerne kontaktieren!
There is now a German version of the guide "How to be a good contributor.