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Sin #3718483

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wells wells 6 Novimber 2015 6 Novimber 2015 om 08:20:54 UTC flag Report link Permalink

I'm unsure about this, but don't the rules go お + masu stem + する

And the masu stem of 話す is 話し, not 話

So, お話しできたら

Compare: またお会いできたら

tommy_san tommy_san 6 Novimber 2015 6 Novimber 2015 om 09:28:29 UTC flag Report link Permalink

これは動詞「話す」の謙譲語ではなくて、美化語の名詞「お話」のつもりです。

謙譲語の「お話しする」の場合、普通の会話ではなくて一方的に語りかける感じがします。ぼくだけかもしれませんが。

wells wells 6 Novimber 2015 6 Novimber 2015 om 09:46:07 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Hm, yes. If it's a noun, there's an omitted が after.

I'm a bit confused about these things. I don't run much into 謙譲語

wells wells 6 Novimber 2015 6 Novimber 2015 om 09:48:58 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Also, as CK commented, my IME recommends in this order:

1) お話できたら
2) お話しできたら
3) おはなしできたら
4) お放しできたら
5) お離しできたら
6) オハナシデキタラ

So I figured people might just pick the first one since it's pronounced the same anyway.

tommy_san tommy_san 6 Novimber 2015, edited 6 Novimber 2015 6 Novimber 2015 om 10:05:24 UTC, edited 6 Novimber 2015 om 10:12:33 UTC flag Report link Permalink

「話」に関しては、動詞は「話(はな)す」、名詞は「話(はなし)」ということになっているはずです。

http://www.mext.go.jp/b_menu/ha...730618001.html
通則4
本則 活用のある語から転じた名詞及び活用のある語に「さ」,「み」,「げ」などの接尾語が付いて名詞になったものは,もとの語の送り仮名の付け方によって送る。
例外 次の語は,送り仮名を付けない。
謡 虞 趣 氷 印  頂 帯 畳
卸 煙 恋 志 次 隣 富 恥 話 光 舞
折 係 掛(かかり) 組 肥 並(なみ) 巻 割

もちろん送り仮名に決まりがなかった戦前は「先生の話しを聞く」のような表記も見られますし、こういう書き方をする人は増えてきているような気もします。ただぼく自身が区別していますので、ここでは規範に従っておきます。

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またお話できたら嬉しいです。

tafoege troch tommy_san, 30 Desimber 2014

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