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Lause #9181005

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carlosalberto carlosalberto 23. oktoober 2020, edited 23. oktoober 2020 23. oktoober 2020 19:53:22 UTC, edited 23. oktoober 2020 19:53:39 UTC flag Report link Püsilink

soweli tomo jan ➜ soweli tomo pi jan ante [?]

Tepan Tepan 23. oktoober 2020 23. oktoober 2020 20:27:39 UTC flag Report link Püsilink

soweli tomo pi jan ante = someone else's dog

New sentence? [?]

carlosalberto carlosalberto 23. oktoober 2020 23. oktoober 2020 20:39:31 UTC flag Report link Püsilink

No. As a matter of fact, I thought that the expression "soweli tomo jan" meant something like "human dog", and not "someone's dog". [?]

Tepan Tepan 23. oktoober 2020 23. oktoober 2020 20:57:22 UTC flag Report link Püsilink

How would you translate "someone else's dog"? (I would still say "soweli tomo pi jan ante".)

Sonja's official Toki Pona book has the adjective "jan" as "someone's" (or "somebody's") and not "human", here:

mi weka e ike jan, la mi weka e ike mi.
If I erase somebody's faults, I cleanse myself of negativity.

It looks like "jan" as an adjective behaves like "mi", "sina" and "ona".

soweli tomo mi - my pet
soweli tomo sina - your pet
soweli tomo ona - their pet
soweli tomo jan - somebody's pet

So I think "somebody's pet" is a plausible read.

carlosalberto carlosalberto 23. oktoober 2020 23. oktoober 2020 21:03:15 UTC flag Report link Püsilink

You're right. I hadn't noticed that use of the adjective "jan". Thanks a lot.

carlosalberto carlosalberto 23. oktoober 2020 23. oktoober 2020 22:24:10 UTC flag Report link Püsilink

@Tepan

I'm thinking. Could I say this: soweli jan li kama weka tan tomo ona. [?]

Tepan Tepan 24. oktoober 2020 24. oktoober 2020 07:17:33 UTC flag Report link Püsilink

I think that's a good sentence. I would translate it as "somebody's animal escaped from its home." But, good catch: when "tomo" is already in the context, then "soweli tomo" can be simply "soweli", I think.

I think such a sentence would be a different sentence, though. Currently, the dog may have disappeared during a family vacation while the family was making a break at the side of the road.

carlosalberto carlosalberto 24. oktoober 2020 24. oktoober 2020 13:19:01 UTC flag Report link Püsilink

pona!

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #4632406Someone's dog disappeared..

soweli tomo jan li kama weka.

lisatud kasutaja Tepan poolt, 23. oktoober 2020

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