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Sentence #2064569

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halfb1t halfb1t December 8, 2012 December 8, 2012 at 7:51:00 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Changed from "Do you know whose is this here car?" which is dialect. The dialect is interesting because it makes the este/esse distinction, which standard English rarely does.

halfb1t halfb1t December 8, 2012 December 8, 2012 at 8:53:02 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

You sound like a city boy wannabe black.

The Web site you cited (why not here?) has--as I recall--the sentence "Do you know whose this here ball is?" Just this sentence was spoken by generations of Southern mommas every day until their children learned to pick up after themselves.

For examples of "this here" on Google ngrams you must search for "thishere." The usage is not confined to America. Coleridge complained of its being employed by rustics. The OED dates it to 1380; and it is still being used today, as your Web cite shows.

When something is new to you, don't say, "That's wrong"--because it will often make you look stupid. Instead say, "That's new to me" or "Gee, is that English too?"

halfb1t halfb1t December 8, 2012 December 8, 2012 at 9:18:39 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I don't understand why CK's comments, flagged as belonging to this sentence, appear in my mailbox as from
Tatoeba <trang.dictionary.project@gmail.com>
instead of here.

He asks, "What dialect is this?" intimating that it's "Ebonics." I suppose many city boys today have that impression, as a result of the Great Migration, which brought millions (?) of African Americans from the rural South to northern cities. Unsurprisingly, they brought their language with them. It is the language, spoken--as attested by the OED--by the rural poor, more often white than black, for the last 600 years.

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #2064354Vocês sabem a quem pertence este carro?.

Do you know whose is this here car?

added by halfb1t, December 8, 2012

Do you know whose is this here car?

added by halfb1t, December 8, 2012

Do you know whose is this car here?

edited by halfb1t, December 8, 2012

Do you know whose is this car here?

edited by halfb1t, December 8, 2012

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