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Sentence #5673006

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maaster maaster December 10, 2016 December 10, 2016 at 9:05:29 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I am not sure that you must put commas before the words "that" and "which" here in your English sentence.

VirtuOZ VirtuOZ December 10, 2016 December 10, 2016 at 10:59:45 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I know that English is less strict with punctuation than Hebrew.

The first comma (before "that") is probably redundant, but I had decided to keep it to emphasize the dramatic spoken pause.

The second comma (before "which") is used to enclose an elaborative clause (that ends with the word "course"), and I believe it is therefore required.

AlanF_US AlanF_US November 29, 2019, edited November 29, 2019 November 29, 2019 at 4:09:17 PM UTC, edited November 29, 2019 at 4:10:35 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

The second comma (before "which") is indeed required. The first comma (before "that") should be removed because no pause can be inserted in that position in this sentence. If you wanted to insert a pause, you'd have to change the sentence:

I have no good way to tell you this: a horrendous tragedy...
I have something to to tell you: that a horrendous tragedy...

The first version is better than the second.

Another issue is that the present perfect ("has taken place") doesn't go together well with a specific time ("about a half an hour ago"). It would be better to say "took place".

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #2561912אין לי דרך טובה לספר לך, שטרגדיה נוראה, שתשפיע על כל מהלך חיינו העתידיים, התרחשה לפני כחצי שעה בחלק הדרומי של כביש מספר 4..

I have no good way to tell you, that a horrendous tragedy, which is going to affect our whole future lives' course, has taken place about a half an hour ago in the southern part of road 4.

added by VirtuOZ, December 9, 2016

I have no good way to tell you this, but a horrendous tragedy, which is going to affect the whole course of our future lives, took place about half an hour ago on the southern part of Route 4.

edited by AlanF_US, December 5, 2019