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** Tatoeba Day #6 **
Tatoeba Day starts now! And as usual will end in 24 hours.
If you don't know what Tatoeba Day is about, you can find information about it here:
http://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/arti...ow/tatoeba-day
For this Tatoeba Day, we're introducing some new labels on GitHub:
- [status:pending]
- [status:accepted]
- [status:rejected]
How is this going to work?
1. Like previously, each participant is limited to 2 requests.
2. You can request anything, but you should take the time to look at the issues on GitHub (https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues). Maybe the thing you want to request has been requested before, and instead of writing a whole post, you can simply post the link to the GitHub issue. If the request is not logged yet, we will create a new issue for it.
3. Requests that are enhancement (as opposed to bugs) will be marked with the label [status:pending].
4. The community will have up to 2 weeks to discuss about a pending issues. During this time, members can express their opinion (on the Wall) about whether or not they want the issue to be implemented or not.
5. After 2 weeks, if the issue is considered to be valid, it will be marked with the label [status:accepted]. Otherwise, it will be closed and labeled with [status:rejected].
6. In the next Tatoeba Days, only issues that are labeled [status:accepted] will be considered for implementation.
7. Bugs do not need to go through this process. Bugs are valid and automatically accepted as long as they can be reproduced.
Note: This doesn't mean that in the future only requests labeled [status:accepted] will be implemented. Issues that are not labeled [status:accepted] may still be implemented. The point of having a label [status:accepted] is that during Tatoeba Day, developers won't need to worry about implementing something that will be removed later because it turns out that the community doesn't like it.
With this new workflow, for this Tatoeba Day, only requests for *bug fixes* will be considered to be added to the next Tatoeba update.
You can check what will be included in the next update on this page:
https://github.com/Tatoeba/tato...nes/2015-08-31
Happy Tatoeba Day!
first request:
https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/608
having this issue fixed would be helpful for anyone, imo, since any user might want to reset his/her password for any reason
This issue cannot be reproduced anymore.
second request:
https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/23
when searching for something, I guess it would be better to see if there are actually no results or if there has been a problem during the search, so that, in the latter case, people can easily report it
I've taken a look at this, and unfortunately I don't see an easy way to do this.
This is not high priority enough that I can afford to take the time to fix it any time in the near future.
When the search doesn't work, people end up figuring out quite quickly, even without a specific message for it so fixing this would be nice to have, but not critical for the user experience.
Wrong sentence count displaying sentences in "Browse by language" feature when both "Not directly translated into:" and "Only sentences with audio:" filters used and, as a consequence, broken paging.
How to reproduce.
1. Open https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...nly-with-audio
Japanese sentences with audio will be found and displayed. Remember the sentence count in the result (474 at the moment).
2. Press ">>" button and make sure that paging is working correctly. You will be taken to the page 48.
3. Now select 'English' in the "Not directly translated into:" drop-down menu. The page will be reloaded and you'll notice that the sentence count remained unchanged.
3. Press ">>" and see the page 48 with blank sentence list. Currently, only 10 pages of the Japanese sentences with audio not translated into English exist.
This has been fixed. You can test it on the dev website (with other languages than the ones you mentioned though, since the dev website is behind in terms of content).
Thanks, Trang! Everything seems to work just fine.
My request:
List the sentences in people's collections in the reverse order from what it is now, so that the latest items are the first and the oldest come last.
This is how sentences are displayed when you open "my sentences" for example.
I find this easier to work with.
I have created an issue for it: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/756
Thanks. Sounds good.
Request one
https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/677 (Private lists)
Request two
1) http://prntscr.com/84rd0e - Add the buttons "translate", "edit"(if applicable), "favorite it", "add to list", and rate as "ok", "unsure", "not OK" on lastest sentences list.
[not needed anymore- removed by CK]
Sorry, I mislaid that...
If you're going to implement this… please make it optional. Also, I don't really think you should have the option to translate a sentence without seeing its existing translations; otherwise you'll create duplicates very often.
I suggest to make it possible for every user to create their own private lists of contributors and display the sentences, added only by the contributors from the certain list (now we can only browse the sentences, added by one single contributor, but not by the group of contributors). For example, "Native British English contributors", "The German contributors, I like the most", and so on. Also it would be possible to display all the sentences in the language, excluding those, added by contributors from the certain "black" list (like "Chinese contributors, which style I don't like"). I suppose those lists only for private personal usage, so it's not any kinds of ratings, but the feature for user's commodity.
This would need to be discussed more before we create an issue for it.
I understand the core idea, but it will be too complicated to implement it the way you described it.
From your description, my feeling is that you would like to be able to easily browse sentences and translate sentences of a certain group of contributors, that you have identified as trustworthy contributors, for a certain language.
So my question is: would it be enough if as a first step, you could create a list of native contributors in a specific language (list of English native contributors, list of German native contributors, etc)?
Yes, the idea is about creating groups of contributors.
But it's even not about "trustworthed" or "untrustworthed" contributors.
The option "only native speakers sentences" is already exists, and it works well.
But personally for me nativeness is not so important, cause almost all people I interact in English aren't natives, and I consider English as a kind of international language (of course, I talk about advanced level contributors, not about beginners, which contaminate the corpus with weird and grammatical incorrect sentences). For Italian, Guybrush 88 makes a good job to keep the corpus clean and check and tag non-native sentences, so they can be considered trustworthed enough in my opinion.
There is another issue.
Firstly, many languages are spoken in more than one country. So, the ideal case would be if each sentence is marked with tags which dialect is it (if the sentence fits for several dialects, there should be several tags). But I think, it's impossible for now.
So, as I try to stick British English rules in spelling, vocabulary and pronunciation, I would like at least to have a list of BrE speakers.
Secondly, my personal preference is translating sentences, that express some thouths and feelings, tell some interesting facts, or just not trivial. Translating those phrases is much more fun, but not all the contributors create something like that.
I tried to describe the whole idea and my personal preferences, of course, every member could use that feature for their own purpose. The main thing, those lists should be visible only to their owners, and serve for their commodity, and if someone include you into their "white" or "black" list it shouldn't impact on your rating or "trustworthness".
[not needed anymore- removed by CK]
> 1. Allow searching for sentences by more than just one username.
I was about to write the same thing.
If you type the usernames once, they will appear from then on just by typing the first letter.
Of course, it would be more comfortable if we could make groups of members that we can use anytime for search. I also proposed it before.
https://tatoeba.org/wall/show_m...#message_22851
We won't need a system to distinguish between "white lists" and "black lists". Sometimes you may want to limit to sentences by British English speakers, while sometimes you may want to exclude them.
Thanks, I didn't know there was such a possibility. So, it's possible to keep all the lists in a text file and paste them in the search line.
Tatoeba Day is now over.
You can check what will be included in the next Tatoeba update on this page:
https://github.com/Tatoeba/tato...31+is%3Aclosed
Requests that were made during the previous Tatoeba Days but not implemented have been marked with [status:pending], you can find the list here:
https://github.com/Tatoeba/tato...atus%3Apending
Please take the time to review these requests. If there is a request in this list that you think should not be implemented, or should be implemented differently, simply post a comment about it on the Wall.
Next Tatoeba Day is scheduled on September 12 (in 2 weeks).
Thank you for your participation!