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CK CK October 28, 2012，编辑October 30, 2019 October 28, 2012 at 2:20:57 AM UTC，编辑October 30, 2019 at 6:47:19 AM UTC link 永久链接

[not needed anymore- removed by CK]

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sacredceltic sacredceltic October 28, 2012 October 28, 2012 at 9:44:50 AM UTC link 永久链接

rene1596 is not a native speaker of French.

CK and CM are one and the same person. Counting them as 2 different native speakers is misleading.

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CK CK October 28, 2012，编辑October 30, 2019 October 28, 2012 at 10:24:25 AM UTC，编辑October 30, 2019 at 6:47:27 AM UTC link 永久链接

[not needed anymore- removed by CK]

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Sbgodin Sbgodin October 28, 2012 October 28, 2012 at 11:29:42 AM UTC link 永久链接

I took a quick look. Sacredceltic is a native French speaker ;-) Rene1596 seems to be one as well, but it's hard to check...

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sacredceltic sacredceltic October 28, 2012 October 28, 2012 at 12:52:08 PM UTC link 永久链接

He is not. He is a Russian brat, living in Switzerland and pretending to be an "old French linguist from Paris" to annoy me, which is ridiculous because he cannot even argue properly in French. He overestimates his French, which is good, but far from being "native".
A number of brats such as him, endowed with an oversized ego, actually use Tatoeba as a playground to test both their linguistic skills and their ability to deceive people.
The problem with these brats, when they are actually Russian, is that betray themselves because they don't get the articles properly, as well as the coordination of tenses in French, which are completely different from Russian.

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cntrational cntrational October 28, 2012 October 28, 2012 at 3:21:47 PM UTC link 永久链接

Can you post some actual examples that suggest that rene1596 is not a native French speaker?

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sacredceltic sacredceltic October 28, 2012 October 28, 2012 at 5:26:31 PM UTC link 永久链接

I already did many times, just review the comments on his sentences, and anyway, you don't speak French at all, so that would be of no use to you...

gillux gillux October 28, 2012 October 28, 2012 at 4:38:18 PM UTC link 永久链接

I think he’s native. I found his comments even more relevant than his sentences for checking.
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentence..._user/rene1596

I’m not talking about the meaning of his comments, but the way he wrote them. It’s native text. I noticed a large part of his comments are arguments with sacredceltic, which in my opinion are linguistic-related and not relevant points to juge his nativeness. Natives just "know" things about their language, most of the time without being able to properly explain them. Whereas linguists can explain. I don’t expect a native to be a linguist. Rene1596 is not a linguist (and I believe none of us are), but he’s definitely native.

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sacredceltic sacredceltic October 28, 2012 October 28, 2012 at 5:28:12 PM UTC link 永久链接

> Rene1596 is not a linguist

So why did he write he was ? At which lie do you stop believing him ?

sacredceltic sacredceltic October 29, 2012 October 29, 2012 at 5:59:13 PM UTC link 永久链接

nimfeo is a native speaker of French.