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很高兴，最近成为了Tatoeba的高级编辑者。不知道各位在这个网站上贡献自己时间的初衷是什么，对我来说，在Tatoeba上编辑是为了学习语言。虽然自己也不清楚这对语言学习到底有多大的帮助。很多时候，添加句子、翻译句子……其实都是在打发时间。就像是漫无目的地浏览网页，看看Facebook和Twitter上有什么新鲜事。
我对Tatoeba上检查句子的流程还是很疑惑的。通常我都是偶尔在首页看到一些有问题的句子才会去评论，指出其中不妥当的地方。前几天，我试着从第一句中文开始检查，但是发现工作量着实不小。而且很多句子是别的用户检查过的，既然已经是完全正确的句子，再去检查也是浪费时间。
不过，我想针对用户来检查句子是个好想法。就像维基百科上的监视列表一样，每个Tatoeba的用户都有自己负责的用户，而且自己记录着自己检查那些用户的进度。我想这样可以更好地保证句子的正确性。
正在学习中文的朋友们，如果你们愿意，我可以帮助你们检查你们的中文。我会在我的资料中保存检查你们中文语句的进度，就像这样（下面是我翻译一些用户世界语Esperanto的进度）:
先努力翻译这个用户的英文和世界语句子
http://tatoeba.org/epo/activiti...jameno/page:17
接下来是这个用户：
http://tatoeba.org/chi/activiti...ofi/epo/page:2
http://tatoeba.org/chi/activiti...f/ludoviko/epo
http://tatoeba.org/chi/activiti...s_of/etala/epo
http://tatoeba.org/chi/activiti...f/Manfredo/epo
我们也都很高兴有你 :)
关于检查句子的流程，高级编辑者可以加标签,如果你觉得一句中文句子是对的，你可以加一个"ok"标签,这样别的用户会发现这句话是对的，但是我同意现在我们差一个wiki为了说 从1h号到
10000号的中文句子都检查过了，还是“现在Sadhen在检查从10000到11000的句子"等等
我希望我快会加这种的特征。
(for the other part i take the initiative to translate into English as it may interest non-chinese speaker/learner)
(the previous part was about the checking process)
Basically in order to ease the checking process, Sadhen proposes for each natives to take care of one or more users to check and "OK" tag the sentences this way that will be easier to not have several people checking the same sentences while some being left apart.
in order to ease this, I will try to set up soon a sort of wiki on Tatoeba (open up in writing in a first time only for advanced members, in order to not have an other place to check for spammers), where we can centralized this kind of information.
by the way as a Chinese learner I'll be glad you check mine :), there's not that many because those older than 6 months (and i didn't contribute that much this 6 last months) already get checked by a Chinese friend of mine (the user fucongcong there)
new spam message by http://tatoeba.org/ita/user/profile/rita207
I've received it too...
I have just received it.
Imir-a kan ay t-id-ḍḍfeɣ.
Ankaŭ mi ricevis trudmesaĝon de tiu spamsendanto (sed mi trovis ĝin, enhavantan tekston en la ĉeĥa, interesa ☺).
Oh Rita, Rita, lovely Rita,why do you do all this? ☺
+1
I deleted it, thanks again :)
spam message by http://tatoeba.org/ita/user/profile/rose102
I've deleted the messages and blocked the user, thank you to have notified me :)
@sysko, i have a suggestion for spam users: why don't you put captchas for new users creation? i believe it would really help with this issue
there's already more or less one, but the problem does not come at the registration, as someone can do it "humanly" and then let the script run. I did put some code based on the sessions, but seems it's not enough. I can try to put check before sending a private message, if there's already 5 times the same message, then to send me a private message to me too to check.
ROMANCE SCAM WARNING: If rose102, "a loving and caring lady" is going to send a message to you too, you shouldn't answer. It's just a trick to convince you in several steps to send money in the end.
+1
that's good to be a memmber a mong you.
Ihi imi llan Yiqbayliyen niḍen da, ad farseγ tagnit ad ken-sseqsiγ:
Amek ara d-nini "aslif" akked "tawellit" s tenglizit ?
- "aslif" d argaz n weltma-s n tmeṭṭut-iw
- "tawellit" d tameṭṭut yezzewjen d-yerezzfen mi tebγa γer wexxam n yimawlan-is.
Llan ula d Icelḥiyen a Djef :-) Ur ttecceḍ ;-)
Deg wayen yerzan awen ayɣef d-tesseqsaḍ:
Aslif (islifen): my sister-in-law's husband.
Yusef d aslif-inu - Yusef is my sister-in-law's husband.
Tawellit (tiwelliyin): married daughter/sister.
Nɛennu tiwelliyin-nneɣ 1- We visit our married daughters.
2- We visit our married sisters.
Azul fell-awen
Azul a Hocine, amek telliḍ?
svp tari s tifinagh
Nekk ed bahra n medden yaḍnin ur nẓadr ad nari s tfinaɣ. Aselkim-inu (حاسوب) ur yeẓdar ad yari s tfinaɣ. Ur ssineɣ maɣef.
nkkni nra ad ɣurnɣ tili yat tutlayt tamaziɣt tatrart
kcm ɣr wansa agi iɣ tbɣit ad tlmedt tifinaɣ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=...9&feature=plcp
A sel a argaz n lɛali: nekk ssneɣ tifinaɣ, maca ass-a llan bahra n medden ur ẓdarn ad tent-ẓren (s wallen-nsen) ɣ uselkim. Ar d-ttbanen ɣas imkuẓen (مربعات). Ta tga tamukrist d taxatart. Ixessa ad d-naf tifrat. Maca yezmer ad yili yiles dar-s sin n yigemmayen. Llan bahra n yilsawen ɣ umaḍal dar-sen sin n yigemmayen nɣed ugar: taserbit, takurdit, taswaḥilit, tahawsat, atg. Ari s ugemmay ay trid a gma. Tanemmirt ^v^
tanmmirt ik a gma amstan
ⵎⴰⵎⴻⴽ ⴰⵔⴰ ⵏⴰⵔⵉ: ?
ɣ (غ)
ɛ (ع)
ⵢⴰⵀ
F umya ;-)
Tanemmirt i keyy a gma :-)
Ah, dɣik awd nekk ẓdarɣ ad ẓreɣ isekkilen n tfinaɣ!!! Feṛḥeɣ bahra s waya!!! Ta d tikkelt tamezwarut mani rad zḍarɣ ad ten-ẓreɣ ɣ uselkim-inu ;-)
ⴰⴷ ⵏⴰⵔⵉ ⵙ ⵓⴳⴻⵎⵎⴰⵢ :-)
Ad kecmeɣ s azday-ad ameggaru, ad t-armeɣ.
Tifino for write Tifinagh
[Francais]
Tifino est un logiciel crée par Ibrahim Bidi, ce programme d'écriture en tifinagh
est différent des polices Tifinagh déjà connues ,est qui ne fonctionnent que sur les document office indépendamment de la connexion a internet.
Avec "Tifino" dorénavant ,vous pouvez écrire en Tifinagh sur les forums de vos sites préférés ,
envoyer des e-mails ,chater...etc ..tous en Tifinagh
voila la technique et mode d'emploi ,suivez les instructions suivantes:
*)télécharger ce petit logiciel Tifino Lite:
code.google.com/p/tifino/
Lien Telechargement direct: http://tifino.googlecode.com/fi...ino%20lite.exe
*)dans la barre des langues choisissez Afrikaans
*)tapez qq chose et oui c'est du tifinagh
kcm ɣr wansa agi ad degs tarit s iskkiln n tifinaɣ
http://www.amazighnews.net/Clavier-Amazigh.html
Tanemmirt. Ssneɣ mani rad d-afeɣ anasiw (لوحة مفاتيح) n tfinaɣ, maca isekkilen-nni ur d-tteffɣen (ur d-ttbanen) ɣ uselkim-inu. Nekk ẓdarɣ ad ten-ariɣ, maca ur ẓdarɣ ad ten-ẓreɣ, ur d-ttbanen.
A sel: keyyin kemmel ari s tfinaɣ, nekkni ad nkemmel ad nari s ugemmay alatini as asmi ara d-naf mamek rad nesmun tira-nneɣ.
azul fllawn
Azul fell-ak a Abrid
Anṣuf yes-k ɣer Tatoeba
Tella yagi tmaziɣt deg Tatoeba.
Hello Abrid
Welcome to Tatoeba
Amazigh (Berber) already exists on Tatoeba.
Azul d ameqran fell-ak a gma Lḥusin,
Hellllllllo Hocine
Gran saludo Hocine
Hallo Hocine
أهلا بك يا حسين،
Anṣuf yes-k ɣer Tatoeba
Welcome to Tatoeba
Bienvenido a Tatoeba
Willkommen zu Tatoeba
مرحبا بك إلى تاتويبا
^v^
Hocine d Amaziɣ aneggaru ay d-ikecmen ɣer Tatoeba
Hocine is the latest Amazigh-speaker to join Tatoeba
Extrange linking.
http://tatoeba.org/spa/sentences/show/1647335
0 direct link but 2 indirect links ¿?
Something extrange with links
http://tatoeba.org/spa/sentences/show/1743412
But cliking on english sentece, interlink disapear
http://tatoeba.org/spa/sentences/show/1633619
Maybe you don't have selected those languages in your settings?
Yes, it's
Estaba haciendo pruebas en la configuración y no daba cuenta que afectaba.
Gracias :)
I think maybe interesting put a link like this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li...SO_639-3_codes
In this config page
http://tatoeba.org/spa/user/settings
Sysko:
Some short sentences in Amazigh are considered as sentences of other languages by the language detector. This is an example:
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/1741243
"Nekk am gma" (I am like my brother) was detected as an English sentence, and yet, the word "nekk" (I) occurs 121 times and "gma" occurs 28 times in the Tatoeba Amazigh corpus, and neither words exist in English. So I was advised to report the problem to you.
Tanemmirt
Thanks sysko for your clever recognition system.
Maybe is interesting an error detection system.
A record of senteces automaticaly recognised and after of this flag is changed for user.
In especial senteces like above from Amastan, is also interesting a personal notification.
Sorry for my creative english.
Ahat tettuḍ ur tettekkaḍ ara γef teykunt-nni n tutlayin mi ara tiliḍ tettaruḍ s tmaziγt, acku "by default" tettili deg tenglizit.
Uhu a Djef, Sysko yura-d yiwen n wahil d amaynu ara k-yejjen ad taruḍ s yiles ay ak-yehwan, sakkin d adeg n Tatoeba ara iɛeqlen iles-nni ayyes turiḍ. Aya iga-t-id i wakken ur k-tettarra tmara ad tettbeddileḍ iles (deg wumuɣ-nni n yilsawen) yal tikkelt aydeg ara taruḍ tafyirt s yiles yemgerraden. Ihi, i wakken ad yeɛqel udeg n Tatoeba iles ayyes turiḍ s webrid aymani (automatic), ad tferneḍ "Auto detect" deg wumuɣ-nni n yilsawen (d win ara tafeḍ d amezwaru deg wumuɣ-nni). Ihi ula d kecc, ma yella tessuqquleḍ seg neɣ ɣer tmaziɣt, tafṛensist, tanglizit ed taɛṛabt, fren kan "Auto detect", sakkin aru s yiles ay ak-yehwan, d adeg-nni d netta ara iɛeqlen ilsawen ed ad asen-yefk tikbabin.
the new language detector just said that this sentence is in chinese: http://tatoeba.org/ita/sentences/show/1739896
A near miss. It's Italo-Japanese, isn't it :D
"ami Tatoeba" estas esperanto, ĉu vi ne povas vidi tion ?
Prefere ni silentu pri tio por eviti flagodisputon.