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30   берничә минут элек 13 июль, 2026 ел, 11:20:02 UTC link Даими сылтама
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Бу хәбәрнең эчтәлеге безнең кагыйдәләргә каршы килә һәм шуңа күрә яшерелгән иде. Ул бары тик администраторларга һәм хәбәр авторларына гына мөмкин.

Tom9358 Tom9358 1 моннан бер ничә көн элек 12 июль, 2026 ел, 10:34:08 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

I can't search for sentences currently. It give me: "An error occurred while performing the search. If the problem persists, please let us know and include the error code "6a536d7be6cc8" in your message."
Does anyone else also have this problem?

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Proxima5 Proxima5 1 моннан бер ничә көн элек, редакцияләнгән 1 моннан бер ничә көн элек 12 июль, 2026 ел, 10:45:36 UTC, редакцияләнгән 12 июль, 2026 ел, 11:07:27 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

@Tom9358 Hello, i have this problem, too. I've tried several languages, but the outcome is still the same. The random sentences feature also doesn't work properly.

zhoucantd zhoucantd 23 моннан берничә сәгать элек 12 июль, 2026 ел, 12:39:28 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Exact same problem here.

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mhr mhr 20 моннан берничә сәгать элек 12 июль, 2026 ел, 14:57:40 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Same here with "translate sentences" and "advanced search", but "browse by language" is working.

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IdiomHunter IdiomHunter 20 моннан берничә сәгать элек 12 июль, 2026 ел, 15:31:24 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Same error

gillux gillux 18 моннан берничә сәгать элек 12 июль, 2026 ел, 17:05:34 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

The search is now working again. Sorry for the inconvenience!

ecorralest101 ecorralest101 1 моннан бер ничә көн элек 11 июль, 2026 ел, 15:55:53 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Hello @admins, my friend Ervin Hogdson sent a request for adding the Rama language. This is spoken in the Caribbean coast of Nicaragua, it's a Chibchan language. I don't know if here it the right place to ask, I hope I am not inappropriate. I just want to follow up. I also know you guys are too busy doing other stuff.

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AlanF_US AlanF_US 1 моннан бер ничә көн элек 11 июль, 2026 ел, 19:12:28 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Thanks for checking in with us.

There is a page that covers the process of making a language request:

https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...nguage-request

It's part of the Tatoeba wiki, which means you can find it by using the link "Tatoeba Wiki" at the bottom of any page.

From the introduction: "A new language should be requested only if the requester is planning to add a substantial number of sentences in that language."

Ervin should set up a Tatoeba account and follow the procedure described on the page.

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ecorralest101 ecorralest101 1 моннан бер ничә көн элек 11 июль, 2026 ел, 20:23:47 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Thanks. He has followed all the steps required. I will let him know that he needs to write more sentences so it is substantial for Tatoeba.

Tom9358 Tom9358 2 моннан бер ничә көн элек 11 июль, 2026 ел, 7:09:01 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Hey! Weet iemand of er een alternatief bestaat voor https://tatoeba.j-langtools.com/transtop/ ? Die pagina is sinds maart niet meer bijgewerkt.

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AlanF_US AlanF_US 1 моннан бер ничә көн элек 11 июль, 2026 ел, 19:16:07 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

You could send the Tatoeba user sharptoothed (the maintainer of that page) a private message.

rul rul 5 моннан бер ничә көн элек 8 июль, 2026 ел, 11:26:30 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

I've put together a "linguistic stress test" of sentences demonstrating various aspects of English grammar, for comparative purposes.

We have more than one of these already (a famous one is the "apple is red" series), but if you're bored and looking for useful sentences to translate, here are some you can work on: https://tatoeba.org/en/sentence...&direction=asc

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araneo araneo 4 моннан бер ничә көн элек 8 июль, 2026 ел, 18:54:41 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Thank you, this is very helpful. How did you decide which sentences to add?

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rul rul 4 моннан бер ничә көн элек 8 июль, 2026 ел, 19:33:59 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

I'll come clean, it was mostly a matter of prompt engineering. I asked for 50 sentences showing the broad grammar of English for the purpose of comparative grammar study:

"generate 50 english sentences that would broadly serve the purpose of analyzing the grammar of other languages when translated. try to cover all the major aspects of grammar, if not every subtlety"

The LLM showed its "work," though, in that it said which aspect of English grammar each sentence was an example of.

Note: The below sentences may differ slightly from those in the list.

The dog sleeps. — intransitive verb, present tense
The girl opened the door. — transitive verb, definite object
The teacher gave the child a book. — ditransitive verb
There is a mouse under the table. — existence + location
The cup is on the shelf. — copula + locative phrase
The sky became dark. — change of state
My brother is a doctor. — identity/class membership
This soup tastes strange. — sensory predicate
I have three sisters. — possession + numeral
The woman’s bicycle is broken. — possessive noun phrase
Tom eats rice every day. — habitual aspect
Mary is reading a letter. — progressive aspect
They have already left. — perfect aspect
I had finished before you arrived. — past perfect + temporal clause
We will meet tomorrow. — future time
She used to live near the river. — past habitual
He was still sleeping when I called. — past progressive + interruption
I have been waiting for two hours. — perfect progressive + duration
The bread was eaten by the birds. — passive voice
The window got broken during the storm. — result passive / accidental event
Do you know the answer? — yes/no question
Who broke the vase? — subject question
Whom did Mary invite? — object question
Where are you going? — question with motion verb
Why didn’t Tom come? — negative wh-question
Mary asked whether we were ready. — embedded yes/no question
I don’t know what he wants. — embedded wh-clause
Close the door. — imperative
Don’t touch that knife. — negative imperative
Let’s leave before sunset. — hortative / first-person plural command
If it rains, we will stay home. — real conditional
If I had known, I would have helped. — counterfactual past conditional
Although Tom was tired, he kept working. — concession
Because Mary was hungry, she bought some bread. — causal clause
I left before the children woke up. — temporal subordination
After washing his hands, Tom sat down. — non-finite clause / same subject
The man who lives next door is a musician. — subject relative clause
The book that I borrowed is missing. — object relative clause
The woman whose son called me is here. — possessive relative clause
What you said surprised everyone. — headless/free relative
Tom saw himself in the mirror. — reflexive pronoun
Tom and Mary blamed each other. — reciprocal pronoun
I gave my friend her keys. — pronoun gender + indirect object
Nobody saw anything. — negative quantification
Every student read a different book. — universal quantifier + distributivity
Some children like both cats and dogs. — indefinite plural + coordination
Only Mary understood the joke. — focus particle
Even Tom understood the joke. — scalar focus particle
This box is heavier than that one. — comparison
Mary is the tallest person in the room. — superlative

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rul rul 4 моннан бер ничә көн элек 8 июль, 2026 ел, 19:46:14 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Of course I subjected it to my own scrutiny before posting it here... it just happened not to need much further editing this time.

Tom9358 Tom9358 2 моннан бер ничә көн элек 11 июль, 2026 ел, 7:43:18 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Hey! Nice list! I'm sure it contains a very large portion of important aspects of English grammar. If somebody would like to tackle this in a research-grounded way at some point, perhaps the following reference might be of value. This paper comes with a collection of all sorts of English ungrammaticality:

Sprouse, Jon, Carson T. Schütze, & Diogo Almeida. 2013. A comparison of informal and formal acceptability judgments using a random sample from Linguistic Inquiry 2001-2010. Lingua 134: 219-248.

Jon Sprouse provides an xlsx with a list of example sentences here (under Journal Articles): https://www.jonsprouse.com/research.html (control+f for "formal acceptability" and download the materials spreadsheet)
Each ungrammatical sentence has a grammatical counterpart, so I think that means that all grammatical aspects listed in the spreadsheet have a sentence that is grammatical according to that aspect.

I used it for my master's thesis back in early 2023, when ChatGPT was brand new and we were wondering if it would be able to a. tell us whether a given sentence is grammatical or not, b. repair it and c. explain why it was ungrammatical.
The conclusion was that a. went quite well, b. went alright, and c. it did quite badly - just like humans.

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rul rul 1 моннан бер ничә көн элек 11 июль, 2026 ел, 13:27:57 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Thanks for this!

It seems I largely use it for the right purposes, then... other than this list, I mainly use it to check if my sentences are grammatical before I put them up here.

IdiomHunter IdiomHunter 12 моннан бер ничә көн элек 1 июль, 2026 ел, 8:27:42 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

I am currently speaking with some native speakers, and Quechua is not a single language, but rather a collection of dialects. In particular, the linguistic differences are sometimes so pronounced that speakers of a certain dialect might not understand those speaking another. Southern Quechua (known natively as urin qichwa) is by far the most widespread and spoken variety within the Quechua language family. I am currently contributing sentences in Cusco-Collao Quechua, which is a Southern Quechua variety. Southern Quechua (especially the Cusco variety or the literary standard) is usually the recommended variety for anyone wishing to start learning the language. I was wondering: wouldn't it be better to separate Quechua into 'Quechua (Southern)' and 'Quechua (dialectal)'? This way, we could ensure greater cohesion within the sentence corpus. From what I have seen here, a large part of the Quechua on this site is Southern.

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IdiomHunter IdiomHunter 10 моннан бер ничә көн элек 3 июль, 2026 ел, 1:08:17 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Any opinions on this? I personally believe that separating Southern Quechua (from cusco) 🇵🇪 from Kichwa of Ecuador 🇪🇨 from all the other variations would be a great improvement. As I said, the cusco variation is the most standardized one and the one we should probably invest the most effort on

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ecorralest101 ecorralest101 10 моннан бер ничә көн элек 3 июль, 2026 ел, 2:04:11 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Hello,

I agree with you. For sure Tatoeba should implement a separation of such varieties as they differ a lot from each other. I don't speak Quechua, but admire the beauty of the indigenous languages in our region of Latin America. Each language deserves respect and recognition.

AlanF_US AlanF_US 9 моннан бер ничә көн элек 3 июль, 2026 ел, 12:50:05 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

It would only makes sense to split up Quechua if someone were intending to contribute in some variety other than Southern. Even in that case, I suspect that "Quechua (dialectal)" would not be the best name for that variety.

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IdiomHunter IdiomHunter 9 моннан бер ничә көн элек, редакцияләнгән 9 моннан бер ничә көн элек 3 июль, 2026 ел, 12:56:13 UTC, редакцияләнгән 3 июль, 2026 ел, 13:02:57 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

That's true, but the issue is that right now in the quechua tag I see a mix of Quechua sentences from cusco, Kichwa of Ecuador and variations like Quechua from Bolivia. I believe this adds noise to the dataset, it would be important to separate these already existing examples now that there are just a few, in my opinion. Maybe we could create:

- Southern Quechua
- Kichwa of Ecuador (optional)
- Quechua (family)

Or the best approach could be including a tagging feature

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AlanF_US AlanF_US 9 моннан бер ничә көн элек 3 июль, 2026 ел, 13:30:14 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Advanced contributors can add tags. If you want to apply to become an advanced contributor, please see the page "How to Become an Advanced Contributor" ( https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...d-contributors ). In the meantime, you can add comments indicating how you think individual sentences should be tagged.

I would suggest "Ecuadorean Kichwa" rather than "Kichwa of Ecuador". I would also try to use more specific tags than "Quechua (family)".

mhr mhr 7 моннан бер ничә көн элек 5 июль, 2026 ел, 12:03:27 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Perhaps (as a first step) you could create lists in order to keep the different varieties apart, e.g.:
https://tatoeba.org/en/sentences_lists/show/174958
https://tatoeba.org/en/sentences_lists/show/174959

gillux gillux 9 моннан бер ничә көн элек, редакцияләнгән 9 моннан бер ничә көн элек 4 июль, 2026 ел, 7:29:02 UTC, редакцияләнгән 4 июль, 2026 ел, 7:31:27 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Because classifying language is hard work and the Tatoeba project has low ressources, it strictly follows the ISO 639-3 language classification operated by the SIL. This classification has a concept of macrolanguage [1] and Quechua happens to be one [2].

Actually, Tatoeba should not be treating macrolanguages as individual languages because it leads to the kind of issues you are describing. This problem also affects other language families on Tatoeba and we have already identified it [2] but it is yet to be resolved.

Tatoeba is a volunteer-based project, so nothing will happen unless people affected by/interested in this particular issue proactively help. To people who want to help: you can use tags to identify Quechuan languages, as AlanF_US suggested. As for the tag names, you can use the names or ISO codes listed in [2]. You can also open an new issue on GitHub [4] specifically for transitioning sentences in Quechuan languages [que] into each individual language. Ideally we need all Quechuan sentences to be properly tagged, or at least to know what member is using what language. We also need to decide on a language icon for each Quechuan language (maybe the current flag + iso code on the side could do).

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I..._macrolanguage
[2] https://iso639-3.sil.org/code/que
[3] https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/1673
[4] https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2

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gillux gillux 9 моннан бер ничә көн элек 4 июль, 2026 ел, 7:37:18 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

By the way, Tatoeba also supports the Aymara [aym] language. I am mentioning it because Aymara uses a similar flag, so I guess it is somehow related to Quechuan. Aymara is also a macrolanguage: https://iso639-3.sil.org/code/aym so same problem, except Tatoeba only has 13 sentences in Aymara, so probably easier to solve.

IdiomHunter IdiomHunter 7 моннан бер ничә көн элек 5 июль, 2026 ел, 12:13:28 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Whatever way we find I would like for the variations to be included in the downloaded file, because it is necessary to train / test AI models for example

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AlanF_US AlanF_US 7 моннан бер ничә көн элек 5 июль, 2026 ел, 13:10:12 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

The Downloads page allows you to download tags in addition to sentences, links, and other data. You could use tags to separate the sentences on your side.

IdiomHunter IdiomHunter 7 моннан бер ничә көн элек, редакцияләнгән 7 моннан бер ничә көн элек 5 июль, 2026 ел, 16:39:10 UTC, редакцияләнгән 5 июль, 2026 ел, 16:39:36 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Based on comment by user Killari we can infer he/she was contributing in a dialect from Perù. (see comment #6166099 ) Most likely from Cusco.

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IdiomHunter IdiomHunter 7 моннан бер ничә көн элек, редакцияләнгән 7 моннан бер ничә көн элек 5 июль, 2026 ел, 16:43:51 UTC, редакцияләнгән 5 июль, 2026 ел, 17:06:52 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

User eeyinn states in his account to be contributing in Kichwa, Otavalo Kichwa (commonly classified under Imbabura Highland Quichua or Imbabura Quichua) is (qvi)

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IdiomHunter IdiomHunter 7 моннан бер ничә көн элек, редакцияләнгән 7 моннан бер ничә көн элек 5 июль, 2026 ел, 17:06:23 UTC, редакцияләнгән 5 июль, 2026 ел, 17:06:41 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

User Wayramaru was writing in Ayacucho (Chanka) Quechua according to a native speaker I know (quy)

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IdiomHunter IdiomHunter 7 моннан бер ничә көн элек 5 июль, 2026 ел, 17:14:07 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Percentage of sentences (Quechua) by user:
User | Sentences| Percentage
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marloncori | 203 | 36.78%
Juanpa | 124 | 22.46%
IdiomHunter | 117 | 21.20%
Killari | 23 | 4.17%
Rockaround | 22 | 3.99%
Wayra | 21 | 3.80%
diegohn | 20 | 3.62%
Wayramaru | 9 | 1.63%
eeyinn | 5 | 0.91%
Balamax | 2 | 0.36%
zarisi | 2 | 0.36%
cwil | 1 | 0.18%
wallebot | 1 | 0.18%
amarusunqu | 1 | 0.18%
rdgscratch | 1 | 0.18%

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IdiomHunter IdiomHunter 7 моннан бер ничә көн элек, редакцияләнгән 7 моннан бер ничә көн элек 5 июль, 2026 ел, 20:55:38 UTC, редакцияләнгән 5 июль, 2026 ел, 20:56:12 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

marloncori contributed in Cusco Quechua according to a native speaker. But his writing isn't standard, so that's something to keep in consideration here.

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IdiomHunter IdiomHunter 7 моннан бер ничә көн элек 5 июль, 2026 ел, 21:30:20 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

So I did some statistical analysis, Juanpa could be contributing in Kichwa, since he almost never uses the character "q", and uses a lot of "sh" just like eeyinn.

Killari, Wayra, diegohn, Wayramaru, Balamax are probably from Cusco, this goes a bit against the native speaker I know, which suggested Wayramaru might be Chanka, but when asking a Chanka speaker, he strongly suggested it was from Cusco. So Wayramaru is a bit "unknown" but he contributed just 9 phrases so it doesn't really matter.

I have to check this data and look better into Rockaround and marloncori, but the native speaker I talked to (from Cusco) says to recognize marloncori as a variation of Cusco so that's to remember.

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Rockaround Rockaround 7 моннан бер ничә көн элек 6 июль, 2026 ел, 9:49:41 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

I answered to a comment on a sentence before reading the wall. Copying it here.

I did not create any sentence as I do not have a sufficient command of the language. The specific ones were taken from open documents like the human right declaration, while I had two sources for the generic ones: my Quechua lesson books (purchased in Peru) and a Peruvian program that was giving news in Quechua.
I have not done that for any other language, but wanted to help expanding the very limited Quechua corpus. I remember trying to be consistent between the pentaphonic and the triphonic versions, but did not consider local dialects.

I do not object to any modification, recategorization or even deletion if one or several of these sentences were not correct.

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IdiomHunter IdiomHunter 7 моннан бер ничә көн элек 6 июль, 2026 ел, 10:08:48 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Do you remember if you bought these books near Ayacucho/Huancavelica/Apurímac or near Puno/Arequipa/Cusco?

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Rockaround Rockaround 7 моннан бер ничә көн элек 6 июль, 2026 ел, 11:14:23 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

You took me on a trip down memory lane just now!

- The program was Ñuqanchik
- The educative resources were the online book of the PUCP (quechua chanca) and another set of physical books that I can't remember right now. I can check at the end of the week. From memory, I bought them in Lima.

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IdiomHunter IdiomHunter 7 моннан бер ничә көн элек 6 июль, 2026 ел, 11:35:18 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Is this the book you are talking about?

https://textos.pucp.edu.pe/pdf/1707.pdf

Tom9358 Tom9358 2 моннан бер ничә көн элек, редакцияләнгән 2 моннан бер ничә көн элек 11 июль, 2026 ел, 7:25:17 UTC, редакцияләнгән 11 июль, 2026 ел, 7:26:15 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

It's great to see this initiative. I have basic knowledge of Ayacucho Quechua and Ecuadorean Kichwa and I can confirm that Juanpa and Eeyinn write Ecuadorean Kichwa. They both use the modern spelling that the Ecuadorean government has adopted as well. I don't think any other accounts use Ecuadorean Kichwa, I was in contact with @eeyinn a while ago and he told me this:

"I think generally breaking down into Quechua 1 (nuna simi), 2-a&b (runa shimi), and 2-c (runa simi) would be a good starting point.

If you could infer that I write in Otavaleño, you can probably sort the little bit of Quechua on here yourself, but I´ve developed an ear for at least these three general categories and would be happy to lend a hand.

Let me know if I can help."

Sadly, this was right at the time when I started my first full-time job, and I never managed to follow up on this. I think it's high time that Quechua on Tatoeba is split into at least the a few very distinct varieties that see some official use. I still don't have much time on hands, but let me know what's still needed, maybe I can help somehow!

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IdiomHunter IdiomHunter 1 моннан бер ничә көн элек, редакцияләнгән 1 моннан бер ничә көн элек 11 июль, 2026 ел, 11:55:06 UTC, редакцияләнгән 11 июль, 2026 ел, 11:58:17 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

marloncori | 203 | 36.78% (Cusco Quechua)
Juanpa | 124 | 22.46% (Kichwa)
IdiomHunter | 117 | 21.20% (me)
Killari | 23 | 4.17% (Probably Urin Qichwa)
Rockaround | 22 | 3.99% (copy-pasted from various sources)
Wayra | 21 | 3.80%
diegohn | 20 | 3.62% (mostly sorted into lists)
Wayramaru | 9 | 1.63%
eeyinn | 5 | 0.91% (kichwa)
Balamax | 2 | 0.36%
zarisi | 2 | 0.36% (classical quechua)
cwil | 1 | 0.18%
wallebot | 1 | 0.18% (Urin Qichwa)
amarusunqu | 1 | 0.18% (Chanka Quechua)
rdgscratch | 1 | 0.18%

This is the up to date list, most people have been identified, except for rdgscratch, cwil, Balamax, Wayramaru, and Wayra

This sorting currently accounts for roughly 93,85% of all quechua sentences on this site.

See more on GitHub: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/3317

ritanila ritanila 4 моннан бер ничә көн элек, редакцияләнгән 4 моннан бер ничә көн элек 9 июль, 2026 ел, 7:44:07 UTC, редакцияләнгән 9 июль, 2026 ел, 7:46:43 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Question: Zin nr. 13972744 I translate from Turkish in Dutch. In Turkish it can be he or she. You cannot see the difference. But if the original sentence is English, it's only he.
If I translate Turkish -> Dutch, do I only look at the right translation between these two languages?
Faq says you in English is one or more, so you use sometimes one, sometimes more.
I guess it's the same here? Feels not right.

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rul rul 4 моннан бер ничә көн элек 9 июль, 2026 ел, 8:29:14 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

We're supposed to translate sentences without looking at that sentence's translations into other languages, meaning the gender in English shouldn't enter into your translation.

Your options are:
1. pick a gender to translate into
2. translate into both genders. we're allowed to translate the same sentence multiple ways

In practice, I find looking at other translations as a reference to be helpful sometimes, but they shouldn't affect your translation's choice of things like gender.

IdiomHunter IdiomHunter 5 моннан бер ничә көн элек 7 июль, 2026 ел, 20:24:05 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

question: if a user stops contributing on the site for years, do his / her sentences eventually become orphan?

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Pfirsichbaeumchen Pfirsichbaeumchen 5 моннан бер ничә көн элек, редакцияләнгән 5 моннан бер ничә көн элек 8 июль, 2026 ел, 7:10:02 UTC, редакцияләнгән 8 июль, 2026 ел, 7:10:18 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

No, they will continue to be theirs indefinitely. A profile is usually only set to "inactive" (which enables adoptation of sentences by other users) if they request it, or in justified exceptional cases.

Tamajeq1286 Tamajeq1286 17 моннан бер ничә көн элек, редакцияләнгән 16 моннан бер ничә көн элек 26 июнь, 2026 ел, 10:22:46 UTC, редакцияләнгән 26 июнь, 2026 ел, 14:18:07 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Subject: Request to add Tawallammat Tamajaq [ttq] to Tatoeba

Dear Tatoeba Team,

I would like to request the addition of a new language to Tatoeba. Here are the required details:

Language name: Tawallammat Tamajaq
ISO 639-3 code: ttq
SIL link: https://iso639-3.sil.org/code/ttq
My Tatoeba username: Tamajeq1286
Public sentence list with 100+ sentences: https://tatoeba.org/ar/sentences_lists/show/174933

Tawallammat Tamajaq is a Southern Tuareg language with ~1.3 million speakers in Niger, Mali, and Nigeria. The list contains 100+ original sentences, not duplicates, and follows the standard Latin orthography with Ǝ ɣ š.

Thank you for your support in preserving and promoting this language.

Best regards,
Tamajeq1286

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Tamajeq1286 Tamajeq1286 17 моннан бер ничә көн элек, редакцияләнгән 17 моннан бер ничә көн элек 26 июнь, 2026 ел, 10:56:37 UTC, редакцияләнгән 26 июнь, 2026 ел, 11:09:13 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Further supporting information for adding Tawallammat Tamajaq [ttq]:

To demonstrate the digital readiness and active support for this language, please note that there is already a substantial contribution on Glosbe, with over 250,000 translated entries spanning Arabic, English, and French. Please note that these are recent contributions, so they might not be fully reflected in Glosbe's public statistics yet:
- Tamajaq to Arabic: https://glosbe.com
- Tamajaq to English: https://glosbe.com
- Tamajaq to French: https://glosbe.com

Additionally, an electronic dictionary for Tamajaq is fully available. We can actively leverage this resource as a reference to contribute, verify, and expand high-quality sentence pairs directly on Tatoeba once the language is approved.

Thank you for considering this request!

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Tamajeq1286 Tamajeq1286 15 моннан бер ничә көн элек 27 июнь, 2026 ел, 23:49:50 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Dear Tatoeba Team,Following up on my language request for Tawallammat Tamajeq [ttq], I would like to inform you that I have a clean corpus of over 7,000 parallel sentences ready for import.These sentences were previously contributed by me to Glosbe under my official profile and platform (Tamajeq.com). Since I am the original author and creator of this data, there are no copyright issues, and the corpus fully complies with Tatoeba's CC-BY licensing terms.Once the language code is activated, I can provide the dataset in the required CSV/TXT format for a developer mass-import. Thank you!"

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gillux gillux 13 моннан бер ничә көн элек 29 июнь, 2026 ел, 19:26:50 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Inclusion of Tawallammat Tamajeq can be tracked on https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/3312

As for the dataset, you can submit it to team@tatoeba.org or open a new issue on Github with the file attached.

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Tamajeq1286 Tamajeq1286 13 моннан бер ничә көн элек 29 июнь, 2026 ел, 23:18:12 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Dear gillux,

I would like to express my deepest gratitude, utmost respect, and sincere appreciation to you and the Tatoeba team for approving my request and opening the GitHub issue so quickly. Your support in preserving and promoting this language means a great deal to our community.

Regarding the language icon for Tawallammat Tamajeq (ttq), I would like to kindly request using the national flag of Niger 🇳🇪 instead of the previous artwork. Since the vast majority of ttq speakers live in Niger and the language is officially recognized there, using the Nigerien flag will make it much easier for our community to identify their language on the website.

Thank you once again for your incredible understanding, support, and flexibility!

Best regards,
Tamajeq1286

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gillux gillux 13 моннан бер ничә көн элек 30 июнь, 2026 ел, 11:43:41 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

I can’t judge on the relevance of either icons, but I’d like to point out the current broader context to help decide.

Tawallammat Tamajeq (ttq) is part of the family of Tuareg languages. The SIL lists 4 of them: https://iso639-3.sil.org/code/ttq

Tatoeba already supports Tahaggart Tamahaq (thv) https://tatoeba.org/sentences/s...ne/indifferent which is another language used in Niger. The two other Tuareg languages Tayart Tamajeq (thz) and Tamasheq (taq) are not yet supported.

Tatoeba also supports the Hausa language (hau). This language uses the flag of Nigeria with letter code on the side. (It used to use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...usa_people.svg and it is not clear why it was changed).

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Tamajeq1286 Tamajeq1286 12 моннан бер ничә көн элек 30 июнь, 2026 ел, 21:22:15 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

I previously submitted a cultural symbol, but some local linguists suggested that using the flag of Niger would be more accurate and preferable than simply a cultural symbol, since Tawallammat Tamajaq is a national language in Niger. I also suggest using 🇳🇪. Thank you very much.

sabretou sabretou 8 моннан бер ничә көн элек 4 июль, 2026 ел, 19:11:27 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

If I may insert myself here, I was responsible for the revision of language icons on Tatoeba back in the day. I kept some records of why I chose which icon for which language, but unfortunately, I did not record the rationale for my decision when it comes to changing the icon for Hausa.

If I have to guess now, it might be because I did not have a good enough source attesting the validity of the icon at that time. The flag linked in your message attributes its source to Enciclopaedia Heraldica, which is not a reliable source in my opinion, given its own lack of sourcing and information.

Tamajeq1286 Tamajeq1286 12 моннан бер ничә көн элек 30 июнь, 2026 ел, 22:51:40 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Dear gillux,

I previously informed you that I have a large collection of sentences translated into English, Arabic, and French. Some are available as plain text in my notes, some in spreadsheets, and some I previously converted to PDF. You kindly informed me that I could send them by email. My question now is: what formats should I use to send the sentences to you? I would appreciate a more detailed explanation of the most suitable and fastest method for this task, given the large number of sentences. It's important that you avoid a slow, manual approach while maintaining your established grammar guidelines.

Best regards,
Tamajeq1286

Tamajeq1286 Tamajeq1286 11 моннан бер ничә көн элек 1 июль, 2026 ел, 12:06:51 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Hello everyone,Thank you for this great initiative and your efforts to support the Tawallammat Tamajaq (ttq) language.To contribute to this discussion and showcase the richness of the language, I would like to share this unique Tawallammat Tamajaq pangram. It contains all the official letters and modified characters used in the standard Tamasheq alphabet:"Xa bălla imuzărăn naŋŋin wər gəmmiyăn âr taggaẓt dəɣ Məššina fəl ad agəẓ ṭǝma n ăɣrǝm han măqqăja săkṣoḍnen."This sentence is a perfect example of the language's structure and can be very useful for testing fonts, character rendering, or language data in the project.Best regards!

ecorralest101 ecorralest101 10 моннан бер ничә көн элек 2 июль, 2026 ел, 23:59:16 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Hello Tatoeba team,

I wanna ask you a question. Why does Tatoeba team take too long to accept a new language request?

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AlanF_US AlanF_US 9 моннан бер ничә көн элек, редакцияләнгән 9 моннан бер ничә көн элек 3 июль, 2026 ел, 12:56:14 UTC, редакцияләнгән 3 июль, 2026 ел, 12:57:34 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

(1) We have other things keeping us busy. This is especially true for gillux, who adds new languages.
(2) Adding a new language requires substantial effort.
(3) Some new language requests will probably never be fulfilled, so if you're judging by those, the average is going to be thrown off.

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Бу хәбәрнең эчтәлеге безнең кагыйдәләргә каршы килә һәм шуңа күрә яшерелгән иде. Ул бары тик администраторларга һәм хәбәр авторларына гына мөмкин.

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AlanF_US AlanF_US 9 моннан бер ничә көн элек 3 июль, 2026 ел, 15:37:26 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

I'm hiding your comment not for the usual reasons but because you've already made the same comment on GitHub. As gillux said a few hours ago:

https://tatoeba.org/en/wall/sho...#message_42003

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Tamajeq1286 Tamajeq1286 9 моннан бер ничә көн элек 3 июль, 2026 ел, 15:39:49 UTC flag Report link Даими сылтама

Ok I'm very sorry.