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Cumle #37515

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Cumleya şima nêamê îlawekerdene çunke cêrênî xora estê.
Cumle #{{vm.sentence.id}} – aîdê {{vm.sentence.user.username}} ya Cumle #{{vm.sentence.id}}
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star Na cumle aîdê qiseykerdoxêko/a ziwanê dayîke ya.
warning Na cumle muteber nîya.
content_copy Cumle kopya bike info Şo rîpelê cumle
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Açarnayîşî
Lînkê nê açarnayîşî wedarne link Bike açarnayîşo raşteraşt chevron_right
{{translation.furigana.info_message}} {{translation.text}} Cumleya mewcûde #{{::translation.id}} sey açarnayîşêk amê îlawekerdene.
edit Nê açarnayîşî pergal bike
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Açarnayîşanê açarnayîşan
Lînkê nê açarnayîşî wedarne link Bike açarnayîşo raşteraşt chevron_right
{{translation.furigana.info_message}} {{translation.text}} Cumleya mewcûde #{{::translation.id}} sey açarnayîşêk amê îlawekerdene.
edit Nê açarnayîşî pergal bike
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{{vm.expandableIcon}} {{vm.sentence.expandLabel}} Hîna tay açarnayîşî

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wondersz1 wondersz1 November 1, 2010 November 1, 2010 at 12:39:22 PM UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

Suggest changing that into 'Not every child likes apples' if you meant that there are some children apples and some that don't. Otherwise, the notion is that none of the children like apples.

wondersz1 wondersz1 November 1, 2010 November 1, 2010 at 1:06:24 PM UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

Quite possible. If so, can you please unlink http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/37513 from this one, otherwise it looks like it's a translation of the phrase from a different language, but in fact it has a different meaning.
Currently we have the two sentences with different meaning linked (through a translation) to each other:
All children do not like apples.
Not all children like apples.

Demetrius Demetrius November 1, 2010 November 1, 2010 at 1:13:28 PM UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

@wondersz1:
It's not linked. As you can see, it's shown in gray. It means it's an "indirect link", i.e. it's linked via another sentence.

wondersz1 wondersz1 November 1, 2010 November 1, 2010 at 1:15:35 PM UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

Yeah, but if we take it for granted that every translation should retain the meaning of the original phrase, one of the translations is incorrect.

Demetrius Demetrius November 1, 2010 November 1, 2010 at 1:18:11 PM UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

Currently there is no way to explicitly mark indirect translation wrong. Such a possibility is expected in the new version of Tatoeba.

Just beware thay gray translations can be incorrect. That's all we can do now. :o

wondersz1 wondersz1 November 1, 2010 November 1, 2010 at 1:27:51 PM UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

OK, thanks for letting me know )) Would be great to see this in the new version ))

CK CK May 25, 2022 May 25, 2022 at 3:13:26 AM UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

This does match the Japanese. Both are from the Tanaka Corpus
どの子供もリンゴが好きではない。

My hypothesis is that this was an example created explicitly for explaining why this would be incorrect if you meant the following.

[#37513] Not all children like apples. (CK) *audio*

Obviously, the meaning of this sentence, #37515, isn't true.

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Dekewtişî

Ma hema nêeşkenîme dîyar bikerîme ke na cumle açarnayîşêk ra virazîyaya yan ney.

All children do not like apples.

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