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shekitten shekitten 11 days ago, edited 10 days ago June 13, 2021 at 8:10:43 PM UTC, edited June 14, 2021 at 3:49:03 PM UTC link Permalink

Another thread about flags: the Duolingo Yiddish course has been using a letter called a kometz-aleph as the flag of Yiddish, and from what I've seen this has been received positively by other Yiddishists and Yiddish speakers. Here's a version of the same basic concept: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...aleph_flag.svg

The basis for this is a song called "oyfn pripetshik," where a rabbi teaches his students the alef-beys. The refrain goes, "Zet zhe kinderlekh, gedenkt zhe, tayere, Vos ir lernt do; Zogt zhe nokh a mol un take nokh a mol: Komets-alef: o!" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyfn_Pripetshik

I think this is the best, or least bad, option for the flag here at Tatoeba as well.

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shekitten shekitten 3 days ago, edited 3 days ago June 21, 2021 at 11:23:25 PM UTC, edited June 21, 2021 at 11:24:35 PM UTC link Permalink

I'll raise what I think is the biggest issue, since no one else has any comments: this flag is too similar to the one used by Ancient Hebrew. I'd suggested in the past using the Paleo-Hebrew alphabet for Ancient Hebrew, or perhaps a combination of Paleo-Hebrew and the post-exilic Aramaic-based square script. There's also a font that bases itself on the Aleppo Codex, Keter Aram Tsova, in which the word "Hebrew" could be written out as another alternative.

At this point I even think the Menorah Flag would be fine for Yiddish, though. But objections have been raised in the Forward before.

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CK CK 3 days ago, edited 3 days ago June 21, 2021 at 11:29:28 PM UTC, edited June 21, 2021 at 11:29:37 PM UTC link Permalink

Are these the 2 flags you are talking about?

https://tatoeba.org/img/flags/yid.svg
Yiddish

https://tatoeba.org/img/flags/hbo.svg
Ancient Hebrew

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shekitten shekitten 3 days ago June 21, 2021 at 11:45:21 PM UTC link Permalink

No - go back and read the first post in the thread

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CK CK 3 days ago June 21, 2021 at 11:49:34 PM UTC link Permalink

Could you put the URLs of the 2 flags you think look too simlar?

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shekitten shekitten 2 days ago June 22, 2021 at 11:58:27 AM UTC link Permalink

https://tatoeba.org/img/flags/hbo.svg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...aleph_flag.svg

shekitten shekitten yesterday June 24, 2021 at 12:18:08 AM UTC link Permalink

Pursuant to this, I'm proposing we change the flag of Ancient Hebrew to this: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...ebrew_Flag.svg

And Yiddish to this: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...aleph_flag.svg

Rationale: The Kometz Aleph is a recognizable Yiddish symbol and is already used by Duolingo as a symbol of the language. However, changing to the Kometz Aleph Flag would make Yiddish's flag too similar to Ancient Hebrew's. Therefore I am proposing a flag for Ancient Hebrew that takes the first word of the Torah, בראשית ("in the beginning"), and puts half of it in the Paleo-Hebrew alphabet, half of it in the square Hebrew alphabet.

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sabretou sabretou yesterday June 24, 2021 at 4:06:37 AM UTC link Permalink

I've made a Github issue for this: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/2803

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shekitten shekitten yesterday June 24, 2021 at 7:47:48 AM UTC link Permalink

Thank you.

felix63 felix63 3 days ago June 21, 2021 at 5:39:38 PM UTC link Permalink

Pour rappel.

Petite erreur à modifier. À la marge de « mes révisions », il est écrit : « Phrases maquées comme n'étant pas Ok. » Pourrait-on svp rajouter le (r) à « maquées. » :-)

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Yorwba Yorwba 3 days ago, edited 3 days ago June 21, 2021 at 6:04:03 PM UTC, edited June 21, 2021 at 7:12:05 PM UTC link Permalink

Si on rejoint l'équipe de traduction du site web, on peut corriger telles erreurs soi-même: https://www.transifex.com/tatoeba/tatoeba_website/

Il-y-a d'explication en anglais https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...ce-translation

DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez 5 days ago June 20, 2021 at 9:14:04 AM UTC link Permalink

If I adopt a sentence, that had comments on it before it was adopted, do those comments appear in "Comments on my sentences" tab?

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ddnktr ddnktr 4 days ago June 20, 2021 at 10:43:15 AM UTC link Permalink

I just checked my "Comments on my sentences" page and I'm pretty sure they do, since I have comments on adopted sentences there from back before I was a member.

lbdx lbdx 6 days ago June 19, 2021 at 8:02:44 AM UTC link Permalink

** Tatominer **

Thanks to Yorwba, shekitten, Polgar1, cojiluc, Guybrush88, ddnktr, deniko, Thanuir, wolfgangth, aldar, AlanF_US, Micsmithel, Cabo, BW, carlosalberto, Laoan, morbrorper, GrizaLeono, ulymarrero and pirytm for their contributions that helped move the project forward this week.

Check out the most searched words that lack sentences or translations in your language at https://tatominer.netlify.app.

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deniko deniko 6 days ago June 19, 2021 at 10:01:29 AM UTC link Permalink

Why are some words displayed in a bold font?

https://i.imgur.com/dcAM3rO.png

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ddnktr ddnktr 6 days ago June 19, 2021 at 10:14:53 AM UTC link Permalink

"Expressions which appear for the first time in the list are shown in bold type."

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deniko deniko 6 days ago June 19, 2021 at 10:17:38 AM UTC link Permalink

Thanks!

Cabo Cabo 6 days ago, edited 6 days ago June 18, 2021 at 1:32:12 PM UTC, edited June 18, 2021 at 1:38:14 PM UTC link Permalink

I created a list, called Basic Hungarian. In that list I tried to cover some topics what tourists can find helpful.
https://tatoeba.org/en/sentences_lists/show/169075
Although every sentence is Hungarian in there, it would be great if some of you check these, because I tried to add some explanations and possible translations (in English) (you can add them if they are correct) in the comments and you can tell me what you can also find very helpful.
What more, if there is a need, maybe we can put together these sentences and their translations in a list.
Thank you!

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maaster maaster 6 days ago June 18, 2021 at 3:16:36 PM UTC link Permalink

Jó ötlet.
Lehet, tagelni is lehetne, pl. legfontosabb kifejezések.

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Cabo Cabo 6 days ago June 18, 2021 at 3:50:26 PM UTC link Permalink

A tageket nem lehet olyan könnyen megtekinteni, listát le lehet tölteni, persze talán belesorolhatom a most important phrases közé.

CK CK 9 days ago, edited 4 days ago June 16, 2021 at 3:18:02 AM UTC, edited June 21, 2021 at 8:21:57 AM UTC link Permalink

** Stats - The Number of Sentences a Member Owns That Have Audio **


stats-audio-2021-06-12
http://tatoeba.ueuo.com/stats-a...021-06-12.html

Some members have had their sentences in more than one language recorded by more than one audio file contributor.

I was interested in seeing this data, and I thought that some other members might find this interesting, too.


[What's below was added on 2021-06-21.]

Stats - 2021-06-19 - English Sentences With Audio Owned by Members

stats-audio-2021-06-19
http://tatoeba.ueuo.com/stats-a...021-06-19.html

This table shows members who own sentences that have been added in the past 4 weeks (from #10055130 to #10115747) that have audio.

lbdx lbdx 13 days ago June 12, 2021 at 8:27:59 AM UTC link Permalink

** Tatominer **

Thanks to Guybrush88, Yorwba, cojiluc, Silja, Cabo, shekitten, AlanF_US, manufrutos, ColawithIce, wolfgangth, samir_t, letsgolanguages, DJ_Saidez, Esperantostern, Shishir, hansolo, Ricardo14, GrizaLeono and maaster for their contributions that helped move the project forward this week.

Check out the most searched words that lack sentences or translations in your language at https://tatominer.netlify.app.

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shekitten shekitten 11 days ago June 13, 2021 at 8:26:20 PM UTC link Permalink

People have said this before but I just want to say I love this tool and I think it's great for the corpus.

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lbdx lbdx 11 days ago June 14, 2021 at 8:00:09 AM UTC link Permalink

@shekitten thanks for your support.

I am glad to see that some contributors use Tatominer very regularly. Thanks to them, Tatoeba becomes also useful for more advanced learners.

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AlanF_US AlanF_US 10 days ago June 14, 2021 at 3:10:03 PM UTC link Permalink

Once a week, right after you post, I add translations for the first page of entries with source language set to Russian (the language I'm studying) and translation language set to English. It's a good way for me to learn.

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lbdx lbdx 10 days ago June 15, 2021 at 6:43:50 AM UTC link Permalink

To learn a new word, I also got into the habit of translating a few sentences from Tatoeba that contain it. When I can't find any sentence to translate that suits me, I add one myself and abandon it, hoping that a native speaker will adopt it.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 10 days ago June 14, 2021 at 4:59:48 PM UTC link Permalink

** Stats & Graphs **

Tatoeba Stats, Graphs & Charts have been updated:
https://tatoeba.j-langtools.com/allstats/

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DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez 10 days ago June 14, 2021 at 6:47:37 PM UTC link Permalink

ありがとう

Guybrush88 Guybrush88 10 days ago June 14, 2021 at 8:31:47 PM UTC link Permalink

thanks

CK CK 14 days ago June 11, 2021 at 12:42:11 AM UTC link Permalink

** Be the first to translate a sentence with audio **

English with Audio, Not Yet Translated Into Any Language (34,078)
https://tatoeba.org/sentences/s...g&trans_to=und

Spanish with Audio, Not Yet Translated Into Any Language (6,317)
https://tatoeba.org/sentences/s...a&trans_to=und

German with Audio, Not Yet Translated Into Any Language (330)
https://tatoeba.org/sentences/s...u&trans_to=und

Russian with Audio, Not Yet Translated Into Any Language (62)
https://tatoeba.org/sentences/s...s&trans_to=und


** You can also show all sentences not yet translated into your own language **

To do so, just change the "und" at the end of any of the above URLs to the 3-letter code for your language.

For example, ...

English with Audio, Not Yet Translated Into Japanese (507,253)
https://tatoeba.org/sentences/s...g&trans_to=jpn

Spanish with Audio, Not Yet Translated Into English (28,685)
https://tatoeba.org/sentences/s...a&trans_to=eng

fekundulo fekundulo 21 days ago June 3, 2021 at 1:03:55 PM UTC link Permalink

Anybody,

Is there anything that resembles an API to Tatoeba? I would like to query tatoeba directly from my web site, something like

import requests

word = "eloquent"
from_lang = "eng"
to_lang = "nld"

requests.get(f"https://tatoeba.org/en/sentence...to={to_lang}")

However, the status_code is 200 but no sentences are delivered. All I want to do is an anonymous query.

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CK CK 21 days ago June 3, 2021 at 11:53:24 PM UTC link Permalink

At this time, I think the only way to do that would be to send the following search, then filter-out all the unneeded stuff from the resulting page(s), and then reformat that data the way you want it to show on your website.

VISIBLE:
tatoeba.org/sentences/search?from=eng&to=nld&query=eloquent
CLICKABLE:
https://tatoeba.org/sentences/s...query=eloquent

Perhaps you could add what you want as an enhancement request on GitHub.
https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2

Yorwba Yorwba 20 days ago, edited 20 days ago June 4, 2021 at 9:20:52 PM UTC, edited June 4, 2021 at 9:24:05 PM UTC link Permalink

Someone has been working hard on implementing an API: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/pull/2794 However, the code still needs to be reviewed and tested before the API goes live. You can try to help out with that if you have the time.

In the meantime, you'll have to make do by scraping the search results page. The code you posted is one way to do it, but I suspect you're not familiar with the Python requests library.

To get the returned HTML, you should store the result of requests.get():

response = requests.get(...)
if response: # checks whether the status_code is OK
print(response.text) # pretend that this line is indented

Also, I recommend using requests' built-in support for query parameters instead of f-strings:

response = requests.get("https://tatoeba.org/en/sentences/search", params={"from": from_lang, "query": word, "to": to_lang})

That way, even if you search for e.g. "rock&roll" your program will continue to work correctly.

tatoebashrek tatoebashrek 19 days ago, edited 19 days ago June 5, 2021 at 4:40:59 PM UTC, edited June 5, 2021 at 4:41:58 PM UTC link Permalink

It's in progress. Here is the issue defining the aim: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/2669

Yorwba Yorwba 16 days ago, edited 16 days ago June 8, 2021 at 8:19:36 PM UTC, edited June 8, 2021 at 8:20:53 PM UTC link Permalink

A test version of the API is now available, as described by Trang here: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tato...ment-856905312

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AlanF_US AlanF_US 16 days ago June 8, 2021 at 9:34:19 PM UTC link Permalink

This is awesome.