Thanks for replying, TRANG, and thanks gillux for that additional information. I realised that I might have missed any work done, which is why I asked.

I'm not a programmer, unfortunately. Still, I'd like to gauge how much interest there is in having the ability to have multiple voices per sentence, and whether people feel that the choice and diversity it would allow is important.

No, sorry. It was gillux who generated this file at the time: https://tatoeba.org/en/wall/sho...#message_34714

I lost the command line I used at that time. I did it again today and I uploaded the command to the repository. This is just a quick and dirty sed one-liner. We could possibly have Manticore produce the logs directly in a format usable by Tatominer, that would make things easier.

By the way, this new command does not produce records with empty queries, unlike before.

I think it's a bit more complicated than that because Tatoeba sentences are not only used in Tatoeba and then in Wikiverse, but in lots of other projects that will just make a general attribution to Tatoeba and that's it... If some sentences in Tatoeba are copyrighted under the CC BY SA 3 but in Tatoeba they appear as CC BY 2 and in other websites they're also treated as CC BY 2 where Tatoeba is the original author I don't know how well we'll comply with Wikiverse's copyright.

Since we are not allowed to add content from Wikipedia because of this, I wonder if and why texts from Wikiverse would be any different. But as I said I'm no expert, I would just like this to be cleared up before these sentences get lots of translations.

Regarding indices, I think that would be a good use case for public lists, which are automatically linked on the page of each sentence that's part of the list, so you don't need to post a whole bunch of comments to help people find the other sentences.

For demonstration purposes, I made one for the English sentences of the A1-Cinema story: https://tatoeba.org/zh-cn/sente...&direction=asc It's a bit of a problem that lists are displayed in inverse chronological order by default, so I had to explicitly specify a different sort order for the link.

Hi Selena, thank you for doing this. I mean, "to drink" (to have a drink), "at the back", meaning "at the back of the cinema". It is only idiomatic in that people do naughty things at the back of cinemas where they cannot be seen.

I will change the levels on advice of course.

Hi Trang,

Sorry I was not clear on (1). I don't care about what licenses are here or chosen, especially not cc-by and cc-0, they are permissive and that is all good.

The issue is with using cc-by-sa 2.0, and not moving to cc-by-sa-3.0 or 4.0

Basically you should move everything on cc-by-sa-2.0 to cc-by-sa-3.0 at this stage. This should be a simple "find everything using cc-by-sa-2.0 and change it to cc-by-sa-3.0" Nobody will care as it has the same properties. And you are allowed to move forward with cc licences, but not backwards.

*As a result* it means that if I have a Wikipedia sentence, with a 3.0 licence, I can then move it here, only if you are allowing me to use a 3.0 licence. While you stick with 2.0, i cannot do this under the terms of the Wikipedia 3.0 licence.

Thanks for your answer on (2)

Here are the English sentences with \x{200B}.
I marked them with " * ".
Note that some of them have 2 consecutive ones.
I already changed 3 of my own.


[#5699178] Stop crying and get your act together * . (\N)

[#3120690] Without the idea of * * God there is no clever answer to the question about the reason for the existence of the universe. (\N)

[#6146303] * I haven't gone to the doctor in over ten years. (al_ex_an_der)

[#1699577] So let's be friends and enjoy our very cooperative community as well as the richness and diversity of languages * * and their cultures! (al_ex_an_der)

[#1866845] The 26th of September is the European Day of Languages. The Council of Europe wants to draw attention to the multilingual heritage of Europe, to foster the evolution of multilingualism in society and to encourage citizens to learn languages * * . Tatoeba, as an easy-to-use learning tool and an active community, promotes the study and appreciation of languages in a very practical way. (al_ex_an_der)

[#3300092] The form of language * * changes over time. (AlanF_US)

[#9767038] It was Pope Gelasius I who had the idea of * * establishing Valentine's Day, the feast of lovers (every February 14). (AmarMecheri)

[#7034894] Berber is a family of languages * * spoken in North Africa. (Amazigh_Bedar)

[#7034893] Tamazight is a family of languages * * spoken in North Africa. (Amazigh_Bedar)

[#1442465] Seven thousand languages are spoken all over the world, * * and taken together, they comprise the largest collection of human knowledge that has ever existed. (Balamax)

[#8189817] Berber as a family contains several languages * * including: Kabyle, Shawi, Mozabit, Rifain, Zennati, Tergi and Chleuh. (belkacem77)

[#8354940] I am sad that many languages * * will disappear. (belkacem77)

[#8354923] Nature has created so many languages * * that no human could possibly learn them all. (belkacem77)

[#9776973] Hanako's favorite anime is "Night on the Galactic Railroad * ". (DJ_Saidez)

[#9776972] Inuktitut * is a difficult language. (DJ_Saidez)

[#6687278] Our grandfather learned five languages * * as a child. (Eccles17)

[#6687277] Our grandfather learned five languages * when he was growing up. (Eccles17)

[#9120554] North Korea * is located near Japan. (fluffyUser)

[#6990507] * Demander can also mean “to wonder” in French, if you put the word me in front of it. So, for example, the expression “Je me demande quand le film commence” means, “I wonder when the movie begins.” (Hybrid)

[#8604717] High volumes of patients needing hospitalization at the same time can overwhelm health care services, leading to a shortage of beds or attending staff. The end result can be inadequate treatment and more deaths. * (Hybrid)

[#8604704] Public health officials say that while the health care system is holding up, it is under extraordinary strain that will likely worsen if drastic containment measures announced Sunday by Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte don't start having an effect. * * (Hybrid)

[#8626727] Why do women paint their nails? * (Hybrid)

[#2915493] This ticket is made * * out of paper. (j0rd4nkzf)

[#8209929] I want to learn languages * * faster. (josivangoncalves)

[#8199656] My 7 favorite languages * * are English, French, Spanish, German, Japanese, Chinese, Portuguese. (josivangoncalves)

[#3366838] All History shows: idioms of dominant states often lead to the disappearance of the languages of the dominated states. Greek engulfed the Phrygian. Latin killed the Iberian and Gallic. Currently, 25 languages * * are disappearing every year! Understand one thing: I'm not fighting against English, I fight for diversity. An Armenian proverb wonderfully summarizes my thought: "The more languages you know, the more you are a person." (Malape)

[#3416377] Americans wanted to impose the idea that a book or a movie should be considered the same as any commercial object. For they understood that besides the army, diplomacy and trade there is also a cultural war. It's a battle they intend to win both for noble reasons -- the United States has always felt that its values * * are universal -- and less noble ones: the education of minds is the best way to sell American products. Consider that cinema represents their most important export, ahead of weapons, aerospace or computers! Hence their desire to impose English as a global language. Even if we can observe for the last two decades a decline in their influence. (Malape)

[#3366841] The more languages * * you know, that many times you're a person. (Malape)

[#6477717] * I left out the last question because it was too difficult. (nickyeow)

[#3553386] All students have to learn both national languages * * in mainland Finland. (Objectivesea)

[#10071322] After getting a taste from selling old clothes at a high price on the flea market * , she finally set up her recycling shop. (tsp_2)

You'd use the website to see either words in a native language that are missing sentences, that you could make sentences using that word in Tatoeba sentences, or words in a target language that are missing translations in a native language, and then with links from the site you could translate sentences with those words

Both of them are basically contributing to Tatoeba, just using words recommended by Tatominer