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odexed odexed 14 Oktober 2015 14 Oktober 2015 12.05.30 UTC link Permalink

Moreover, there is a difference between total number of sentences from different pages again.
http://i.imgur.com/rzzHkuK.png
http://i.imgur.com/dJMvmRA.png

odexed odexed 14 Oktober 2015, diedit 14 Oktober 2015 14 Oktober 2015 09.51.32 UTC, diedit 14 Oktober 2015 09.52.43 UTC link Permalink

It seems that about 2 thousands of Russian sentences have disappeared. There were more than 320 000 sentences two days ago. Was it because of Horus?

odexed odexed 13 Oktober 2015 13 Oktober 2015 03.52.12 UTC link Permalink

¡Felicidades! Paquilizcayolli!

odexed odexed 6 September 2015 6 September 2015 11.21.31 UTC link Permalink

> 1. What kind of sentences do you mark as "unsure"?

I use 'unsure' when I feel like there are some mistakes or the sentence is unnatural but I can't suggest a good correction. I also believe it's a good way to let people know that some sentence is gramatically good but not very natural by marking it as 'unsure'.

> 2. Have you ever thought about rating a sentence and then decided not to? If so, why?
Yes, I have decided not to rate offensive, trash, unadopted sentences as well as the ones I find difficult to judge for some reasons.

> 3. How do you rate sentences that you know are correct but which you wouldn't use yourself?
As to me, I only put 'OK' if I'd say this sentence myself. In other words, I find these sentences natural and correct. If I'm not sure, I don't put 'OK'.

> 4. Do you have any kind of collection that consists of good things and bad things and things you're unsure of? (Right now, the whole set of sentences that you marked as "OK", "unsure" or "not OK" is called a collection right now.)
I would call it my ratings.

odexed odexed 28 Agustus 2015 28 Agustus 2015 16.14.46 UTC link Permalink

When I change a sentence with an 'OK' tag, the tag automatically takes off. Why is it different for marks?

odexed odexed 21 Juli 2015 21 Juli 2015 08.34.24 UTC link Permalink

For some reason I couldn't add a sentence to my favorites.

odexed odexed 17 Juli 2015, diedit 17 Juli 2015 17 Juli 2015 15.36.34 UTC, diedit 17 Juli 2015 15.37.08 UTC link Permalink

Sí, se puede. Pero ponemos las etiquetas o comentarios para indicar de que tipo o estilo son.

odexed odexed 6 Juli 2015 6 Juli 2015 07.48.48 UTC link Permalink

+1

odexed odexed 24 Juni 2015 24 Juni 2015 09.55.28 UTC link Permalink

I'd agree if this option were adjustable. Maybe for some people that makes sense.

odexed odexed 24 Juni 2015, diedit 24 Juni 2015 24 Juni 2015 09.29.18 UTC, diedit 24 Juni 2015 09.29.59 UTC link Permalink

I don't know about Hebrew but as to Arabic, I would prefer to have only Arabic script without any Latin transliteration. If I want to know how to read some word I'll go to http://forvo.com

odexed odexed 5 Juni 2015 5 Juni 2015 10.05.43 UTC link Permalink

Многие люди произносят сёгун как раз с ударением на ё, http://ru.forvo.com/word/%D1%81...1%83%D0%BD/#ru

В остальных двух словах ё звучит как "е"

odexed odexed 5 Juni 2015 5 Juni 2015 02.13.45 UTC link Permalink

In Russian Ё/ё is always stressed so we don't put a stress mark upon it. The best way would be not writing е instead of ё as many people usually do here.

odexed odexed 4 Juni 2015 4 Juni 2015 08.49.28 UTC link Permalink

That's interesting. For some reason now I find two results when I search a stressed word:

https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...rom=und&to=und

odexed odexed 4 Juni 2015, diedit 4 Juni 2015 4 Juni 2015 07.01.55 UTC, diedit 4 Juni 2015 07.09.45 UTC link Permalink

I think it would be easier to remove just the unicode character u'\3001'

http://www.fileformat.info/info...3001/index.htm

I just checked in Python

>>> print u'\u0420\u043e\u0441\u0441\u0438\u0301\u044f'
Росси́я

odexed odexed 4 Juni 2015 4 Juni 2015 06.15.06 UTC link Permalink

Sorry, I forgot about it.

[А́,А,Е́,Е,И́,И,О́,О,У́,У,Ы́,Ы,Э́,Э,Ю́,Ю,Я́,Я]

odexed odexed 4 Juni 2015 4 Juni 2015 05.20.40 UTC link Permalink

[а́,а,е́,е,и́,и,о́,о,у́,у,ы́,ы,э́,э,ю́,ю,я́,я]

odexed odexed 3 Juni 2015, diedit 3 Juni 2015 3 Juni 2015 10.42.33 UTC, diedit 3 Juni 2015 10.46.39 UTC link Permalink

I see your point. I'll express my opinion and let other natives do the same. Unlike French, in Russian accent isn't fixed and you can't be sure about which syllable is stressed unless you already know how to pronounce the word. Alongside with this, a stress mark doesn't change the meaning of the word at all (but can eliminate an ambiguity sometimes) and it's not a spelling mistake to indicate it. However, we usually don't mark the accent in the books, newspapers so we almost don't do it here in Tatoeba. That's why I don't think anybody would search the words with diacritics.
But sometimes my sentence can be ambiguous without a stress mark and I want to mark it. For example, if I wrote большим insted of бо́льшим (bigger) in #4245504 most people would likely understand it as больши́м (big) which is not what I meant. Please note that even the context doesn't provide enough information to disambiguate that.

odexed odexed 1 Juni 2015, diedit 1 Juni 2015 1 Juni 2015 18.13.26 UTC, diedit 1 Juni 2015 18.18.59 UTC link Permalink

I found out that our search engine doesn't ignore stress marks in Russian sentences. So if I want to point out the stressed syllable I will not be able to find this sentence afterwards. Why is it important? Because sometimes even native speakers pronounce some words incorrectly. Some words can also be ambiguous without a stress mark. Audio would solve the problem but I think that search engine should handle such situations properly anyway.

Some examples:

1) stressed word
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...rom=und&to=und

2) unstressed word
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...rom=und&to=und

Thank you for your attention.

odexed odexed 24 Mei 2015, diedit 24 Mei 2015 24 Mei 2015 20.37.52 UTC, diedit 24 Mei 2015 20.38.57 UTC link Permalink

Of course I will :) Once you write something leave me a private message here.

odexed odexed 23 Mei 2015, diedit 23 Mei 2015 23 Mei 2015 17.45.35 UTC, diedit 23 Mei 2015 17.46.48 UTC link Permalink

Well, I do not provoke you to dispute, I just asked you since I haven't heard in all my life about any negative connotation of this word. Like you said, it's just an opinion and I don't share it. Besides, there are too many really less neutral terms for this word in Russian as to be so picky about it.
I still respect your opinion on this matter but don't be so categorical, not all of those sentences are really offensive or negative. As to me, some of them are totally neutral.