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Hybrid Hybrid il y a 14 jours 22 mars 2020 à 13:39 link permalink

Hi,

I think that clicking on the flag should allow you to change the language of a sentence. This is more intuitive than the current way of doing it.

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Elsofie Elsofie il y a 14 jours 22 mars 2020 à 15:17 link permalink

I agree!

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AlanF_US AlanF_US il y a 14 jours 22 mars 2020 à 16:04 link permalink

Isn't that the way it already works? Could you describe in more detail what you see when you click on a flag?

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Hybrid Hybrid il y a 14 jours 22 mars 2020 à 17:23 link permalink

1. Go to any sentence. For example: https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/8626672

2. Try to click on the flag.

3. Nothing happens.

Elsofie Elsofie il y a 14 jours 22 mars 2020 à 16:30 link permalink

Nothing happens.

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deniko deniko il y a 14 jours, modifiée le il y a 14 jours 22 mars 2020 à 17:01, modifiée le 22 mars 2020 à 17:12 link permalink

That's weird. It works for me.

This is how I do it, do you do it differently?

1. Found a sentence with the wrong flag:

https://i.imgur.com/qRS7FhW.png

2. Click on the flag. A drop down menu appears, it tells you the name of the current flag:

https://i.imgur.com/fTZCInw.png

3. I expand the list and choose the correct language:

https://i.imgur.com/erwz04t.png

4. Voila. The flag has changed:

https://i.imgur.com/ULzRzaH.png

EDIT. Out of curiosity I temporarily changed my sentence display style to the "new design", so maybe you were trying that in the new design? It seems to be working differently there. Clicking on the flag does nothing. You're supposed to click "Edit", after that you can change either the flag or the sentence (or both, I guess):

https://i.imgur.com/B0UY2lo.png

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Hybrid Hybrid il y a 14 jours 22 mars 2020 à 17:23 link permalink

Yes, I'm using the new design.

Elsofie Elsofie il y a 14 jours 22 mars 2020 à 17:26 link permalink

It used to be that way but in the new design one first has to click on “expand menu” and then on the menu “edit”. And then you can change the flag. I really prefer the old design!!!

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AlanF_US AlanF_US il y a 14 jours, modifiée le il y a 13 jours 22 mars 2020 à 18:28, modifiée le 23 mars 2020 à 17:13 link permalink

I hadn't been using the new design, but now I see that clicking on the flag does not change the language. However, I don't need to click on "expand menu" in order to select "edit". "Edit" is one of the buttons that is displayed even when the menu is not expanded.

I can see that an additional click is now required, but in defense of the new design:

(1) Clicking on the flag to change the language, as in the old design, never felt intuitive to me. I remember not knowing how to change the language until someone explained it to me.
(2) Labeling with the wrong language is less common than errors in the text itself, so I don't find it such a burden to click on the "edit" button first.
(3) In the old design, the language drop-down blocked part of the content, while this design lets you look at both the language and the sentence content at the same time.

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deniko deniko il y a 14 jours, modifiée le il y a 14 jours 22 mars 2020 à 18:45, modifiée le 22 mars 2020 à 20:13 link permalink

> However, I don't need to click on "expand menu" in order to select "edit".

Same here. The "Edit" icon is readily available.

> in defense of the new design

All good points. I'm not a fan of the new design at all, but this feature in particular seems to be alright, and even more intuitive comparing to the old design.

Elsofie Elsofie il y a 14 jours, modifiée le il y a 14 jours 22 mars 2020 à 19:28, modifiée le 22 mars 2020 à 21:50 link permalink

You are right. I do not need the “expand menu” first. However, I preferred the old design but it’s not a big deal. I get used to this solution I guess.

TRANG TRANG il y a 14 jours 22 mars 2020 à 20:00 link permalink

From my experience, not everyone finds it intuitive. Alan and deniko are not the only people.

In fact we have a bug in the old design which we discovered because some people first click on the edit button, then click on the flag, even if they could click right away on the flag:
https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/1678

I also remember someone mention on the wall that they would like to click on the flag of a sentence and see other sentences in the language clicked. It shows that, for this person as well, it would not be intuitive to click on the flag to edit the sentence.

So I'm tempted to say that it is simply more convenient for you (and Elsofie, and surely several other users) to click on the flag, purely out of habit. You are just used to it and changing habits takes some time. But it is overall not more intuitive.

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Thanuir Thanuir il y a 14 jours 23 mars 2020 à 05:30 link permalink

Minulta ainakin kesti oma aikani keksiä, että lippua voi painaa.

Samoin näkee uusia käyttäjiä, jotka pyytävät jotakuta poistamaan lauseen, koska se on väärän lipun alla.