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Frasa nº537811

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U2FS U2FS January 26, 2011 January 26, 2011 at 11:29:08 PM UTC link Permalink

http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/709222

Zifre Zifre January 26, 2011 January 26, 2011 at 11:55:50 PM UTC link Permalink

A duplicate of a duplicate. Interesting. ;-)

dominiko dominiko February 9, 2011 February 9, 2011 at 9:57:20 PM UTC link Permalink

There should be a space after the comma.

cjs cjs July 16, 2011 July 16, 2011 at 6:06:42 PM UTC link Permalink

"Nothing venture, nothing have" is incorrect English in any dialect. This sentence is also duplicated in several other entries.


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Scott Scott December 20, 2011 December 20, 2011 at 7:33:22 PM UTC link Permalink

It's the title of a book by Alice Bradley Haven. It seems to be a variant of "Nothing ventured, nothing gained."

And duplicates are handled by a script and will be merged if necessary.


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cjs cjs December 20, 2011 December 20, 2011 at 11:33:39 PM UTC link Permalink

It is indeed the title of an obscure book published around 1850. I can't find the full text, or even much of a description beyond it's in the category "Home Books" in "Juvenile Literature" in one catalogue, so it's hard to say whether it is or is not intended to be a parallel.

At any rate, unless you're aiming at expert language researchers rather than students, I'm going to suggest you take obscure 160-year-old entries like this that would be interpreted as grammatically incorrect in most contexts out of this corpus, or at least mark them as "don't use this unless you're a native speaker of the language in question, and maybe not even then."


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Scott Scott December 21, 2011 December 21, 2011 at 7:37:46 AM UTC link Permalink

I also found a reference in "The Royal dictionary, english and french, and french and english" The French translation is given as "Qui ne s'aventure, n'a cheval ni mule." That was published in 1756.

According to someone ": The origin of "Nothing ventured, nothing gained" appears to be Njal's Saga, in which Wolf asks Hrut, "What's best to be done now, Icelander?" Hrut replies, "Hold on our course, for nothing venture, nothing have."" Here's a link: http://sagadb.org/brennu-njals_saga.en (It's in Chapter 5).

I'll tag it as archaic.


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Horus Horus January 20, 2015 January 20, 2015 at 3:11:22 PM UTC link Permalink

Duplicates of this sentence have been deleted:
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Horus Horus May 11, 2018 May 11, 2018 at 11:31:04 PM UTC link Permalink

Duplicates of this sentence have been deleted:
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