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sharptoothed sharptoothed 26 Yennayer 2014 26 Yennayer 2014 10:18:14 n tufat UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

Nice song and great idea as well. Thanks, Alex! :-)

sharptoothed sharptoothed 19 Yennayer 2014 19 Yennayer 2014 6:00:22 n tmeddit UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

It would be also nice if tag auto-suggestion drop-down list get worked again.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 16 Yennayer 2014 16 Yennayer 2014 12:00:38 n tmeddit UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

С повышеньицем! :-)

sharptoothed sharptoothed 2 Yennayer 2014 2 Yennayer 2014 6:17:27 n tmeddit UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

It seems that the search engine is completely non-functional at the moment.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 31 Duǧembeṛ 2013 31 Duǧembeṛ 2013 3:21:37 n tmeddit UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

The New Year came to Japan a few minutes ago. High time to start celebrating! :-)
明けましておめでとうございます! ^^

sharptoothed sharptoothed 13 Duǧembeṛ 2013 13 Duǧembeṛ 2013 9:15:25 n tmeddit UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

Judging by the file size changes, some nice person still cares about the Japanese indices, but, to all appearance, not very intensive.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 25 Tubeṛ 2013 25 Tubeṛ 2013 8:19:52 n tufat UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

Добро пожаловать на Татоэбу! :-)
> Волнует меня одно в первую очередь -меня не расплющат в бумажный лист...

Предыдущий оратор всё предельно точно изложил: никто Вас плющить ни во что не будет. :-) Надо только иметь в виду, что многие участники относятся к своим "детишкам" (предложениям, сиречь) настолько ревностно, что будут защищать их всеми зубами и когтями, сколь бы ужасными их отпрыски ни были. К этому надо быть готовым. :-)

sharptoothed sharptoothed 22 Tubeṛ 2013 22 Tubeṛ 2013 9:45:57 n tufat UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

> I strongly belive: linking sentences is a right of
> advanced contributors, not an obligation.

Indeed, being an AC or a CM is not an obligation. On the other hand, nobody compels a member to become an AC to say nothing of a CM. Doesn't higher position implies a bit higher responsibility and a bit lesser freedom as well? Of course, in voluntary community people do what they want (within the limits of the rules, though) but if one doesn't want to use his extra rights, why bother gaining them?

sharptoothed sharptoothed 21 Tubeṛ 2013 21 Tubeṛ 2013 10:33:38 n tmeddit UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

I think we just need a reasonable compromise between corpus needs and computational needs. Regular corpus cleaning and de-duplication is among the essentials, I believe. In any case, it's up to us to not make things worse. As we say, it's clean not where they clean up but where they don't litter. :-)

sharptoothed sharptoothed 21 Tubeṛ 2013 21 Tubeṛ 2013 10:24:58 n tmeddit UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

Indeed, the newly added sentence has more chances to be translated than the older one, and, yes, the new translation maybe better than old. But to re-think the existing version we have to be aware of its existence at least. That is, in overall the corpus search is more effective than adding (potential) duplicates.
Besides, in the majority of cases duplicates are either basic/simple sentences (greetings, for example) or well-known quotations (Bible, proverbs, etc.) and I don't think the benefit surpasses the burden in this situation.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 21 Tubeṛ 2013 21 Tubeṛ 2013 9:54:14 n tmeddit UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

> I think that time someone proved how they can become beneficial to the corpus.

I'd really like to learn his arguments since I don't understand how the waste of storage and CPU time, excessive complexity of graph structure and non-optimal search results not to mention the waste of efforts of members translating duplicates time and time again can be of any benefit to the corpus.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 21 Tubeṛ 2013 21 Tubeṛ 2013 8:29:51 n tmeddit UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

Sorry, I should have added more smileys to my comment. :-)
Joking apart, duplicates are not harmful provided that de-duplication is being performed regularly. Sorry to say, I don't remember when it was done last time.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 21 Tubeṛ 2013 21 Tubeṛ 2013 7:40:05 n tmeddit UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

> ... should I add the same sentence as a new direct translation?

No, you shouldn't since duplicates are not welcome on Tatoeba and you have to avoid adding duplicate sentences tooth and nail. :-) Advanced users and corpus maintainers can link any pair of sentences so if you feel that sentence #12345 can be linked to sentence #67890 - just add an appropriate comment and someone will take care about that pair.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 18 Tubeṛ 2013 18 Tubeṛ 2013 5:51:58 n tmeddit UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

I think you (and me, too) understand it right. :-) Sphinx performs stemming before search (not for every language, though) so the result will include all word forms of the same stem.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 18 Tubeṛ 2013 18 Tubeṛ 2013 4:08:05 n tmeddit UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

You can read about search syntax starting from here: http://sphinxsearch.com/docs/cu...boolean-syntax
In your example, the following search string should do what you need: "=venire =per"
'=' tells the search engine to use exact word form and quotation marks make the engine search for a particular phrase.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 26 Ctembeṛ 2013 26 Ctembeṛ 2013 4:38:42 n tmeddit UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

Generally, "OK" tag means that a sentence was reviewed by a native speaker and was acknowledged by him as natural and grammatical sentence. Apparently, "OK" and "@needs native check" tags are mutually exclusive, so when you ask for the "OK" tag you automatically request removal of the "@needs native check" tag.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 26 Ctembeṛ 2013 26 Ctembeṛ 2013 4:22:42 n tmeddit UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

Welcome to the Tatoeba Project!
The links below should help you to decide what to do. :-)

http://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/arti...ow/quick-start
http://tatoeba.org/faq
http://tatoeba.org/help

sharptoothed sharptoothed 7 Ctembeṛ 2013 7 Ctembeṛ 2013 7:12:24 n tufat UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

This is a quotation from the Biblica's (NIV owner) Terms of use:
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The NIV®, TNIV®, NIrV® may be quoted in any form (written, visual, electronic or audio) up to and inclusive of five hundred (500) verses without the express written permission of the publisher, providing the verses quoted do not amount to a complete book of the Bible nor do the verses quoted account for more than 25 percent (25%) or more of the total text of the work in which they are quoted. For additional rights and permission usage on the NIV®, NIrV® and the TNIV® Bible please contact Biblica.
http://www.biblica.com/biblica-.../terms-of-use/
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So it seems we're not it trouble yet (maybe) but I think we should avoid further use of NIV quotations. There's a lot of public domain Bible versions including those written in modern English (World English Bible, for example).

sharptoothed sharptoothed 11 Ɣuct 2013 11 Ɣuct 2013 4:18:58 n tmeddit UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

"Egyptian Arabic" is recognized as a separate language in the ISO 639-3 standard.
http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/...ion.asp?id=arz

sharptoothed sharptoothed 2 Ɣuct 2013 2 Ɣuct 2013 6:20:10 n tmeddit UTC link Aseɣwen yezgan

I hope this will help: http://tatoeba.org/help