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Selena777 Selena777 11 dicembre 2022 11 dicembre 2022 19:09:57 UTC flag Segnala link Permalink

Hello, how can I download sentences belonging to a particular user? There is "detailed sentences" option which let indicate user's name but doesn't let to choose it before downloading. Can I change it?

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lbdx lbdx 11 dicembre 2022 11 dicembre 2022 20:35:03 UTC flag Segnala link Permalink

I don't think that's possible before downloading. Maybe the best thing to do is to download the sentences_detailed file of the desired language and then filter the user's sentences with a spreadsheet.

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Selena777 Selena777 12 dicembre 2022 12 dicembre 2022 16:27:22 UTC flag Segnala link Permalink

Accepting this approach, I must download more than one million English sentences, when I really need about 30,000 right now. I guess the file would be too big to process it.

Plain scrapping from Tatoeba.org using Beautiful Soup looks better than that, but maybe it's possible to scrap the data from its source database without html tags?

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lbdx lbdx 12 dicembre 2022 12 dicembre 2022 16:45:51 UTC flag Segnala link Permalink

> maybe it's possible to scrap the data from its source database without html tags?

if you have coding skills, maybe you can use the API (in beta).

https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/articles/show/api#

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Selena777 Selena777 12 dicembre 2022 12 dicembre 2022 18:13:54 UTC flag Segnala link Permalink

That's exactly what I need, thanks a lot!

Selena777 Selena777 19 dicembre 2022 19 dicembre 2022 19:22:08 UTC flag Segnala link Permalink

How can I get more than 1000 sentences unlike using the Tatoeba search? Is there any variable for that in the API? I tried "count=all" or "count=5000", but it didn't help.

Thanuir Thanuir 12 dicembre 2022 12 dicembre 2022 18:00:43 UTC flag Segnala link Permalink

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Jos tiedoston lataaminen ei ole ongelma itsessään, niin senhän voisi ladata ja sitten muokata tekstitiedostona. Poistaa vaan suurimman osan datasta, niin että jäljelle jää vain haluttu määrä lauseita.

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If downloading the file is not an issue as such, you could do that and edit the file (as a text file) to remove most of the data, leaving behind only a usable amount.

hecko hecko 12 dicembre 2022 12 dicembre 2022 18:01:02 UTC flag Segnala link Permalink

you'd be surprised, it's only 27mb compressed and 156mb uncompressed
using the fantastic `tatoebatools` python library (made by lbdx, funnily enough) i was able to filter for my own sentences in 5 seconds
granted, your computer might be weaker than my 4-year-old core i5 laptop, but it should still take less time than figuring out the api *or* beautifulsoup, let alone running them

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Selena777 Selena777 12 dicembre 2022 12 dicembre 2022 18:21:20 UTC flag Segnala link Permalink

Where can I learn more about the 'tatoebatools' library? (I can assume it permits you having and processing all the Tatoeba database on your own computer, right?)

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hecko hecko 12 dicembre 2022 12 dicembre 2022 18:51:29 UTC flag Segnala link Permalink

there's some documentation on the pypi page https://pypi.org/project/tatoebatools/
and yeah that's what it is, it handles all the downloading and csv quirks for you

Selena777 Selena777 19 dicembre 2022 19 dicembre 2022 19:25:05 UTC flag Segnala link Permalink

Thanks! Btw, do I need to download the database just once or every time using the library? Unfortunately, I didn't have enough of patience to wait for downloading the database but if it's just one time I can wait.

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hecko hecko 19 dicembre 2022 19 dicembre 2022 19:28:19 UTC flag Segnala link Permalink

it saves it after downloading but it does redownload it if there's an update
updates are released every saturday at 6:30am utc

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Selena777 Selena777 19 dicembre 2022 19 dicembre 2022 19:49:50 UTC flag Segnala link Permalink

Thanks for the answer, I'll try it, too.

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CK CK 20 dicembre 2022, modificata il il 20 dicembre 2022 20 dicembre 2022 08:38:55 UTC, modificata il 20 dicembre 2022 08:49:34 UTC flag Segnala link Permalink

🍎 Here are files with only 4 fields, omitting the dates.

sentence_ID + tab + language_code + tab + text + tab + sentence_owner


🥝 All the exported sentences
http://study.aitech.ac.jp/4flds...2022-12-17.zip
228 MB

🥝 Just the English sentences
http://study.aitech.ac.jp/4flds...2022-12-17.zip
27 MB

🥝 Just the 891,125 sentences on List 907
http://study.aitech.ac.jp/4flds...2022-12-17.zip
12 MB


Perhaps one of these will help you.

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Selena777 Selena777 22 dicembre 2022 22 dicembre 2022 19:25:20 UTC flag Segnala link Permalink

Thanks a lot!
Where can I get updates with new sentences?

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Cangarejo Cangarejo 22 dicembre 2022 22 dicembre 2022 19:50:03 UTC flag Segnala link Permalink

At the bottom of every page on Tatoeba there’s a link to the Downloads page, which is updated weekly.

https://tatoeba.org/downloads

CK CK 23 dicembre 2022, modificata il il 23 dicembre 2022 23 dicembre 2022 01:37:59 UTC, modificata il 23 dicembre 2022 01:42:44 UTC flag Segnala link Permalink

If it is the English sentences on List 907 that you are interested in, you can download them at any time from this URL.

https://tatoeba.org/en/sentence...s/download/907

You will also have the option to include any linked Russian sentence.

Note that this export doesn't include the names of the sentence owners, though.