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Today, the thought occurred to me if it wouldn't be possible to replace the current "Wall" by some kind of forum where (members can talk about whatever they like and) each discussion has a separate thread in which posts are arranged in a similar fashion as comments on sentences, i.e. one below the other, but without the width getting narrower. The Wall, as it is now, is not really suitable for long discussions, and every Internet community should have a forum. ☺
I agree. I think that having a forum would be very interesting.
Hear, hear! \o/
+1
AFAIK this is a problem of presentation, the database table for this would maybe just need a category field or something. It's mostly just a matter of who has time to work on this for the current website. btw, it seems like there's some terrible tree building in the php code to make this threading thing work on the wall, and it seems like everyone hates this "feature" :D
That's a good idea.
So, all the discussions will be there, not in comments to sentences.
The more I think about this, the more it seems to me like an essential feature Tatoeba needs more than anything since a long time ago. I think people involved in Tatoeba all have their own goals, things they care about and things they don’t. A forum-like structure would allow to federate people with similar goals. Goals like “make more English-Japanese pairs”, “add more sentences in language X with rare words”, “grow the corpus of language X”, “fix mistakes in sentences of language Y” etc. People who want to ask specialists of a given field (like X-Y translators, natives of language X…) could post on a specific topic to efficiently reach them.
Instead of this, Tatoeba feels to me more like a place where everyone is working on his/her side, and communicating mostly privately with users they got to know incidentally from the sentences authorship or comments. This is not working great. (Please correct me if you don’t share that feeling.)
I wasn’t here by the time this Wall system was installed, but I wonder what were the reasons behind crafting ours thing like this, instead of the so popular forum structure with topics, that has been implemented hundreds of times already.
> I wasn’t here by the time this Wall system was installed, but I wonder what were
> the reasons behind crafting ours thing like this, instead of the so popular forum
> structure with topics, that has been implemented hundreds of times already.
Because we didn't have any specific categories in mind. We just wanted a place for people to communicate with each other, but we didn't really know how to separate the content. There was also very few contributors back then, so there wasn't a real need to split the threads between different categories.
Anyway, it's been a while that I've been thinking about how transition the Wall into something more forum-ish, because I don't think it's appropriate anymore either.
It's not too difficult, it's more or less a matter of adding a column "category" in the "wall" table, and reviewing how things are displayed. But someone needs to take the time to work on it.
But even before thinking about categories, personally, the first step I'd want to work on is to "collapse" all these threads and give the possibility to have a title for each thread (there's actually a column "title" in the "wall" table).
If you're interested to work on this subject, let me know. We can probably find a weekend to discuss about it and code it :)
I wrote an issue ticket about this.
Perfectly explained.
Un hilo para preguntar sobre dudas en un idioma por ejemplo ingles o sobre una categoria ingles tecnico informatico, seria muy util.
La gente interesada en ayudar o en ese asunto podria subscribirse y verlo cada vez que aparece una duda de ese tipo.
Actualmente se puede preguntar en los comentarios de cada frase, pero hay que confiar en la casualidad de que la persona interesada lo vea en un lapso de tiempo corto.
Mucha gente y cada vez mas piensa que seria tremendamente util un foro.
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