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gillux gillux 1天前 2025年7月17日 UTC 上午10:35:51 flag Report link 永久链接

Hello, Tatoeba was updated today. What’s new?

- Content report: there is a new "flag" button on the top-right of Wall posts and sentence comments to ease the report of inappropriate content to admins. This is a counter-measure to the increased spam Tatoeba is seeing recently, and also a feature some people have been asking for in the past.

- Two new languages have been added: Svan and Ao Naga. Cheers to abiniz and monsen_sanang_ai, respectively, for requesting them! Tatoeba now supports 429 languages.

Learn more about Svan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svan_language
Learn more about Ao Naga: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ao_language

- A total of 50 language icons (flags) should now look nicer. The icons have been updated to a vector-based image instead of a raster image, which means they won’t look pixelated or blurry but always sharp, even when zooming in.

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Waldelfe Waldelfe 11小时前, edited 11小时前 2025年7月18日 UTC 上午4:12:09, edited 2025年7月18日 UTC 上午4:12:40 flag Report link 永久链接

Thanks for the update, Gillux.

If I might use this opportunity to make a suggestion, I think it would be good to implement something that will make it more difficult for spam accounts to register themselves in the first place (captcha, email links etc.?) and delete tens of thousands of existing ones (there are quite possibly over a hundred thousand by now). Nine out of ten newly registered accounts are spammers. Of course, most of them remain silent and passive with ads and links in their profiles. This cannot be not a problem.

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frpzzd frpzzd 11小时前, edited 11小时前 2025年7月18日 UTC 上午4:24:07, edited 2025年7月18日 UTC 上午4:47:59 flag Report link 永久链接

I agree. I have been watching the spam accounts come in literally by the minute.

I’ve been reporting spam comments as I see them, but it’s troubling that they can still have a bunch of links in their profile without making any posts. I’d like to help out with that if there’s any way I can. Probably I am too new of a user to have admin privileges, but if it would be helpful, I’m happy to throw together a script that will make a list of likely spam accounts based on common indicators (long link lists in the bio, certain keywords, lack of languages or sentences, etc). Then some admin can run through the list and delete the ones they see fit.

EDIT: just realized that user bios aren’t included in the downloadable data dumps, so maybe that won’t work.

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gillux gillux 8小时前 2025年7月18日 UTC 上午7:09:27 flag Report link 永久链接

frpzzd, thank you for your help. I have tried to figure out a common feature of spam accounts, but there is nothing really standing out, so I also think we’d need some human verification to confirm account purge.

However, I think it is too early to start deleting spam accounts. It would be better to find a way to stop the influx first, and only then start to cleanup.

As you realized, we do not export user bios. If you are willing to help, I can provide you with a database export of user bios and other information.

gillux gillux 9小时前 2025年7月18日 UTC 上午7:02:13 flag Report link 永久链接

Waldelfe, I understand your concern. I am aware of the constant influx of spammy accounts, and be sure that I am willing to stop it. But this is not an easy task.

About adding a confirmation email step, I think it’s is unlikely to help. According to my own research, these accounts are created by humans. They are already going through as many open-registration websites as possible, to create user pages containing a lot of links (see, for example, user xx88art56). Tatoeba is likely the only website in 2025 not requiring email confirmation. If they can do it on other websites which require email confirmation, they will keep doing it on Tatoeba regardless of email confirmation.

About adding a captcha, I don’t think the benefits of the captcha (less spam accounts that are barely noticeable) outweigh the drawbacks (less legitimate users are able to register). Besides, captchas are unlikely to stop the spammers because they are likely real humans.

You are welcome to join the ongoing discussion about prevention of spam accounts on GitHub: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/1613

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araneo araneo 7小时前 2025年7月18日 UTC 上午8:47:35 flag Report link 永久链接

Why would less legitimate users be able to register if a captcha was added? And thank you for the update!

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gillux gillux 7小时前 2025年7月18日 UTC 上午9:03:39 flag Report link 永久链接

You are welcome, araneo.

Captcha notoriously lower accessibility: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...#Accessibility

Captcha can be challenging to solve, even when not visually impaired. If you have poor mental of physical health, simply browsing a website may require a lot of energy; having to solve captchas on the top of that is not helping.

In general, I don’t think anybody is happy to be prompted to solve a captcha.

For these reasons, I’d rather not add more captchas on the web unless there is a really good reason to do so.

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araneo araneo 1小时前 2025年7月18日 UTC 下午3:06:28 flag Report link 永久链接

Thank you for the explanation and for taking that into consideration!

PaulP PaulP 10小时前 2025年7月18日 UTC 上午5:49:07 flag Report link 永久链接

> - Content report: there is a new "flag" button on the top-right of Wall posts and sentence comments to ease the report of inappropriate content to admins.

Thanks! That's very useful!

aleteacher2 aleteacher2 2天前 2025年7月15日 UTC 下午4:39:25 flag Report link 永久链接

Hi Guys! This is Alexander from Brazil! I am very happy to contribute to the development of this site. And I am very happy that the participants here can contribute to the project.

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PaulP PaulP 2天前 2025年7月15日 UTC 下午8:19:57 flag Report link 永久链接

Welcome, Alexander!

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gillux gillux 1天前 2025年7月17日 UTC 上午9:41:45 flag Report link 永久链接

Hello, thank you for all your contributions to this project!

ecorralest101 ecorralest101 1天前 2025年7月16日 UTC 下午8:59:49 flag Report link 永久链接

Hi, just a quick comment. I wish speakers of minority languages would contribute more on these. Many of these languages have less than 10 phrases. Let's try to add more digital presence on these linguistic groups.

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frpzzd frpzzd 1天前 2025年7月17日 UTC 上午12:06:55 flag Report link 永久链接

Which languages are you talking about, if you have specific ones in mind?

Anyways, I agree. For a few weeks, I have also been mulling over how to attract more speakers of Panjabi, Gujarati, Telugu and other major languages of India to this site. They are some of the world languages that are the most underrepresented on Tatoeba (comparing the number of speakers in the world with the number of sentences in the corpus). From what I understand, multilingualism is also extremely common in India so these contributors would probably be very beneficial for the corpus.

For the moment, I don't have any good ideas for accomplishing this. Maybe someone else will chime in with thoughts.

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ecorralest101 ecorralest101 1天前 2025年7月17日 UTC 上午2:36:01 flag Report link 永久链接

Hello, thanks for your reply. Mostly I mean African and Indigenous languages. If you go to the all languages section, you will find many that have less than 10 phrases like Urhobo, Aymara, Haida, Cuyonon to mention some.

By the way, I also have Indian languages. In the past I studied some Kannada, which is a Dravidian language, it has an amazing alphabet, quite artistic.

Now going back to the main topic, I think we might capture some people via social media. It's the idea I have now. On Facebook you may find lots of groups that promote polyglottery and defend minority languages.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 5天前 2025年7月13日 UTC 下午3:40:44 flag Report link 永久链接

✹✹ Stats & Graphs ✹✹

Tatoeba Stats, Graphs & Charts have been updated:
https://tatoeba.j-langtools.com/allstats/

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