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Açarnayîşî
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Açarnayîşanê açarnayîşan
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{{vm.expandableIcon}} {{vm.sentence.expandLabel}} Hîna tay açarnayîşî

Şiroveyî

Hybrid Hybrid October 25, 2014 October 25, 2014 at 23:37:38 UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

Really?

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der October 26, 2014, October 26, 2014 de ame/ê pergalkerdene October 26, 2014 at 00:05:48 UTC, October 26, 2014 at 00:07:41 UTC de ame/ê pergalkerdene flag Report link Lînko payîdar

I think we should ask, what is the meaning of "learning the meaning of words".
If this means learning in which situation which combination of sounds is appropriate, that's not very difficult. But does a parrot understand that there are such things as "words" and "meanings" (and so on) in the (human) world, and how it all works and fits together? I guess not, but maybe I would have to be a parrot to answer this question.

Hybrid Hybrid October 26, 2014 October 26, 2014 at 00:12:14 UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

­"I would have to be a parrot to answer this question." :)

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der October 26, 2014 October 26, 2014 at 00:15:27 UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

But, to be frank, I would prefere to be a squirrel. :)
(I love hazelnuts.)

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der October 26, 2014, October 26, 2014 de ame/ê pergalkerdene October 26, 2014 at 00:17:19 UTC, October 26, 2014 at 00:18:09 UTC de ame/ê pergalkerdene flag Report link Lînko payîdar

Maybe I was a parrot in a previous life. Irene Pepperberg had a parrot called Alex.
Look here! ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_(parrot)

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der October 26, 2014, October 26, 2014 de ame/ê pergalkerdene October 26, 2014 at 00:20:16 UTC, October 26, 2014 at 00:32:25 UTC de ame/ê pergalkerdene flag Report link Lînko payîdar

"Before Pepperberg's work with Alex, it was widely believed in the scientific community that a large primate brain was needed to handle complex problems related to language and understanding; birds were not considered to be intelligent as their only common use of communication was of mimicking and the repetition of sounds to interact with each other. However, Alex's accomplishments supported the idea that birds may be able to reason on a basic level and use words creatively. Pepperberg wrote that Alex's intelligence was on a par with that of dolphins and great apes. She also reported that Alex had the intelligence of a five-year-old human and had not even reached his full potential by the time he died. She said that the bird had the emotional level of a human two-year-old at the time of his death." (Wikipedia)

Thank you for the compliments (and for the always delicious food), Irene! :)
Alex

PS.:
In gratitude, I've promised not to comment on IRENE'S intelligence and emotional level. ☺

Hybrid Hybrid October 26, 2014 October 26, 2014 at 00:22:50 UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

Some in the scientific community are skeptical of Pepperberg's findings.

Hybrid Hybrid October 26, 2014, October 26, 2014 de ame/ê pergalkerdene October 26, 2014 at 00:26:28 UTC, October 26, 2014 at 00:26:43 UTC de ame/ê pergalkerdene flag Report link Lînko payîdar

If you were a parrot, maybe you also were the pet of a famous pirate in one of your past lives. :)

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der October 26, 2014, October 26, 2014 de ame/ê pergalkerdene October 26, 2014 at 00:27:27 UTC, October 26, 2014 at 00:32:51 UTC de ame/ê pergalkerdene flag Report link Lînko payîdar

"Some in the scientific community are skeptical of Pepperberg's findings."
But I will keep my promise at any rate. ☺

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der October 26, 2014, October 26, 2014 de ame/ê pergalkerdene October 26, 2014 at 00:37:13 UTC, October 26, 2014 at 00:43:46 UTC de ame/ê pergalkerdene flag Report link Lînko payîdar

Sometimes a picture tells more than words!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wik...the_Parrot.jpg
Alex, the parrot, thinking: "Holy shit! What does it all mean???"

Hybrid Hybrid October 26, 2014, October 26, 2014 de ame/ê pergalkerdene October 26, 2014 at 00:40:33 UTC, October 26, 2014 at 00:40:56 UTC de ame/ê pergalkerdene flag Report link Lînko payîdar

Smart parrot: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-a8_a...00/funny+d.jpg

Irene + her new parrot: http://youtu.be/ozgcKw4MyvY

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der October 26, 2014, October 26, 2014 de ame/ê pergalkerdene October 26, 2014 at 00:42:33 UTC, October 26, 2014 at 00:48:10 UTC de ame/ê pergalkerdene flag Report link Lînko payîdar

Wikipedia: "Pepperberg reported that during times when she and an assistant were having a conversation and made mistakes, Alex would correct them."

Exactly the same thing is always happening at Tatoeba, isn't it? :D

Hybrid Hybrid October 26, 2014 October 26, 2014 at 00:43:27 UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

It must have been you. :)

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der October 26, 2014 October 26, 2014 at 00:46:06 UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

Irene should have spoken Esperanto to her parrot. I wonder whether the results would have been better. :)

Hybrid Hybrid October 26, 2014 October 26, 2014 at 00:48:40 UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

Maybe... Well, at least she didn't try to teach it German
:D

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der October 26, 2014 October 26, 2014 at 01:58:52 UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

A parrot speaking Esperanto (beginners level ☺): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztj7iYpWCNQ

Hybrid Hybrid October 26, 2014 October 26, 2014 at 02:00:17 UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

☺ saluton Chiqui

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der October 26, 2014, October 26, 2014 de ame/ê pergalkerdene October 26, 2014 at 02:04:25 UTC, October 26, 2014 at 02:36:49 UTC de ame/ê pergalkerdene flag Report link Lînko payîdar

Saluton, Hibrido!

Parto 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y_nqOqY1dg

Ni estas amikoj.

Jes, ni du estas amikoj.

Mi kaj vi
pli kaj pli
du amikoj estas ni

( We two are friends.

Yes, we two are friends.

Me and you
more and more
two friends we are)

Kison mi donis al vi,
ĉar mi ŝatas vin.
Ĉu vi ŝatas min?

(I gave you a kiss
because I like you.
Do you like me?)

Hybrid Hybrid October 26, 2014, October 26, 2014 de ame/ê pergalkerdene October 26, 2014 at 02:14:20 UTC, October 26, 2014 at 02:16:59 UTC de ame/ê pergalkerdene flag Report link Lînko payîdar

He's so cute! ☺ (Kiel beleta li estas!)

Pfirsichbaeumchen Pfirsichbaeumchen October 26, 2014 October 26, 2014 at 02:28:20 UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

Der ist echt süß! ☺

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Ma hema nêeşkenîme dîyar bikerîme ke na cumle açarnayîşêk ra virazîyaya yan ney.

Irene Pepperberg, a researcher at Northwestern University, is discovering that a parrot can not only mimic people but also learn the meaning of words.

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