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Cumle #71899

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Cumleya şima nêamê îlawekerdene çunke cêrênî xora estê.
Cumle #{{vm.sentence.id}} – aîdê {{vm.sentence.user.username}} ya Cumle #{{vm.sentence.id}}
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star Na cumle aîdê qiseykerdoxêko/a ziwanê dayîke ya.
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content_copy Cumle kopya bike info Şo rîpelê cumle
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Açarnayîşî
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{{translation.furigana.info_message}} {{translation.text}} Cumleya mewcûde #{{::translation.id}} sey açarnayîşêk amê îlawekerdene.
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Açarnayîşanê açarnayîşan
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{{translation.furigana.info_message}} {{translation.text}} Cumleya mewcûde #{{::translation.id}} sey açarnayîşêk amê îlawekerdene.
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{{vm.expandableIcon}} {{vm.sentence.expandLabel}} Hîna tay açarnayîşî

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Kalamunda Kalamunda May 13, 2014, May 13, 2014 de ame/ê pergalkerdene May 13, 2014 at 11:21:44 AM UTC, May 13, 2014 at 11:23:16 AM UTC de ame/ê pergalkerdene flag Report link Lînko payîdar

Can you clarify this sentence for me, please? Which of the following understandings is more accurate?

a). If there is already an account, there is a system (the account is already set up) by which you are able to send and receive email. - 'by which' implicitly refers to the account

b). If there is already an account, there is a system (you can login with that account) by which you are able to send and receive email. - 'by which' refers to a system.

My intuitive take is a). because nowadays we do not think of a system when trying to use an email account.

Your response will be appreciated.

Regards,

neron neron May 14, 2014, May 14, 2014 de ame/ê pergalkerdene May 14, 2014 at 2:03:10 AM UTC, May 14, 2014 at 2:14:11 AM UTC de ame/ê pergalkerdene flag Report link Lînko payîdar

Hi Kalamunda,
author of the sentence isn't on Tatoeba several years. You can see that by clicking the authors name, and on that page, on the right side, click Logs, which displays his activity. First listed is his last action. You don't have to check for every direct contact you try, but if Logs beside sentence (now on this page) shows very old date, try to check. Especialy if you are expecting response (and not just leaving remark that could be taken into account any time afterwards).

I am not a native English speaker, but I strongly believe that it is actually meaning closer to your option b. Account provides functional system for specific user which in turn provides possibility to use the system. However, you might want to ask some native English speaker, or maybe better - JimBreen who is listed in the Logs for the sentence. Also you can see first version of the sentence - and how it is changed by him.

Kalamunda Kalamunda May 14, 2014, May 14, 2014 de ame/ê pergalkerdene May 14, 2014 at 4:47:23 AM UTC, May 14, 2014 at 4:47:53 AM UTC de ame/ê pergalkerdene flag Report link Lînko payîdar

Thank you! Very helpful info.

patgfisher patgfisher May 14, 2014 May 14, 2014 at 6:51:59 AM UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

I agree that the meaning of the sentence is equivalent to sentence b.

I realise the author of the English sentence is now inactive but I think English would normally usual plural in this sentence (because you would be sending and receiving more than one email):

"... send an receive emails."

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Ma hema nêeşkenîme dîyar bikerîme ke na cumle açarnayîşêk ra virazîyaya yan ney.

If there is already an account, it is a system, and it is possible to receive (*O) by emailing (*O) in your accounting.

hetê endamêko/a nenas/e ra ame îlawekerdene, tarîx nêzanîyeno

If there is already an account, there is a system by which you are able to send and receive email.

hetê JimBreen ra ame pergalkerdene, December 16, 2009