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DostKaplan DostKaplan 4 de febrer de 2020, edited 4 de febrer de 2020 4 de febrer de 2020 a les 17:03:49 UTC, edited 4 de febrer de 2020 a les 17:04:47 UTC flag Report link Enllaç permanent

Search string: "saw him run" (including the quotation marks)
URL: https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...rom=eng&to=tur

3 results:

I saw him running.
I saw him run away.
I saw him running away.

I then changed the search string to: "saw him *ing"
URL: https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...rom=eng&to=tur

The results did NOT include the two sentences containing "running" above. Instead the results had sentences like "I saw him ... morning".

:-(

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Pandaa Pandaa 4 de febrer de 2020, edited 4 de febrer de 2020 4 de febrer de 2020 a les 17:31:02 UTC, edited 4 de febrer de 2020 a les 18:00:06 UTC flag Report link Enllaç permanent

Use this: https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...&sort_reverse=

"
This example finds English sentences that have "Tom", then two words, then "Mary", then one word, and then "John."

"Tom * * Mary * John"

This example finds English sentences that have words beginning with "red", including the word "red".

red*

This example finds English sentences that have words ending with "red", including the word "red".

*red
"

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DostKaplan DostKaplan 4 de febrer de 2020 4 de febrer de 2020 a les 19:25:55 UTC flag Report link Enllaç permanent

@Pandaa
There shouldn't be anything wrong with my search string: "saw him *ing" including the quotation marks. There's clearly a bug.

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Pandaa Pandaa 4 de febrer de 2020, edited 4 de febrer de 2020 4 de febrer de 2020 a les 20:56:32 UTC, edited 4 de febrer de 2020 a les 21:07:09 UTC flag Report link Enllaç permanent

There's no bug. "wildcards are treated differently within quotes"

Try this: saw NEAR/1 him NEAR/1 *ing

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DostKaplan DostKaplan 4 de febrer de 2020 4 de febrer de 2020 a les 21:28:29 UTC flag Report link Enllaç permanent

This NEAR/1 shit is laughable. Who searches like this? This is so f'd up. Can't we just revert to the old (4 years ago??) search function which is more intuitive?

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gillux gillux 6 de febrer de 2020 6 de febrer de 2020 a les 8:37:29 UTC flag Report link Enllaç permanent

Since we use Manticore as a search engine, the search syntax is defined by them. Among intuitive features like the wildcard, Manticore includes less intuitive things like the NEAR operator.

We have been using Manticore (or Sphinx, as it was named before) for many years. We didn’t change anything in the way the search behave. Can you confirm that 4 years ago, searching for "saw him *ing" behave differently? Maybe something changed in newer versions of Manticore.

brauchinet brauchinet 4 de febrer de 2020, edited 4 de febrer de 2020 4 de febrer de 2020 a les 17:39:54 UTC, edited 4 de febrer de 2020 a les 17:41:08 UTC flag Report link Enllaç permanent

It's still the same bug you reported some time ago:
https://tatoeba.org/eng/wall/sh...#message_30978