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Herzlichen Glückwunsch zum Geburtstag, Lisa! 🌸

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莉紗さん、お誕生日おめでとう🎉

Pfirsichbaeumchen Pfirsichbaeumchen August 16, 2023, edited August 16, 2023 August 16, 2023 at 12:16:51 AM UTC, edited August 16, 2023 at 8:09:21 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

@marafon @small_snow

Danke schön, Ihr Lieben! 😊

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Tatoeba Stats, Graphs & Charts have been updated:
https://tatoeba.j-langtools.com/allstats/

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gillux gillux July 29, 2023 July 29, 2023 at 11:21:55 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I have been working on adding a word count filter to the search. If you make a search on https://dev.tatoeba.org/, you will be able to restrict results to sentences having at least n words, or at most n words. Keep in mind that dev.tatoeba.org only contains a small, old subset of sentences from tatoeba.org. If you notice anything wrong, please let me know.

The new language Mapuche is also about to be added.

In addition, for developers, I have started to implement a proper API as described here: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/pull/3064

I created a simple client example: https://downloads.tatoeba.org/a...v_example.html

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CK CK July 29, 2023, edited July 29, 2023 July 29, 2023 at 11:28:13 AM UTC, edited July 29, 2023 at 11:33:36 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

To try out the word count filter on the dev site see the "advanced search"

https://dev.tatoeba.org/en/sent...dvanced_search

Cabo Cabo July 29, 2023, edited July 29, 2023 July 29, 2023 at 12:09:47 PM UTC, edited July 29, 2023 at 12:13:18 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I really like this idea! I would use it all the time.
As I see now, if I don't fill the 'at most' section, it assumes 0 and shows no sentences, same with filling 'at least' section with 10 and 'at most' section with 9.
(what if changing the wording to Length between and removing 'at most' and 'at least' explanations and allowing both menu to work as higher and lower number input? (yes it needs an in case function, but it would need one otherwise checking if the number is more or less or restrictions on the imput))

It will be an additional search function, or always be on like everything else?

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gillux gillux July 29, 2023 July 29, 2023 at 4:23:31 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I am glad you appreciate it!

About changing the wording, I am not sure which wording is better, they look equivalent to me. I am not sure I understand the rest of your message between parenthesis.

> As I see now, if I don't fill the 'at most' section, it assumes 0 and shows no sentences

If you don't fill the 'at most' field, Tatoeba assumes there is no upper limit and it shows all sentences, just like now.

> It will be an additional search function, or always be on like everything else?

It will be always on.

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Cabo Cabo July 29, 2023 July 29, 2023 at 4:36:22 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

"If you don't fill the 'at most' field, Tatoeba assumes there is no upper limit and it shows all sentences, just like now."
Oh, right, maybe I clicked on it.
Then it's working well.

tatoebashrek tatoebashrek July 29, 2023 July 29, 2023 at 1:38:16 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

The previous API is working well, and is being trialled to import Tatoeba content into Lingopolo as can be seen in the recent additions here https://lingopolo.org/japanese/recent-additions

The next steps will be to start mass import of Tatoeba content using the API.

AlanF_US AlanF_US July 29, 2023 July 29, 2023 at 7:15:53 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

gillux, I like it a lot. It's definitely a big improvement over people depending on manually applied tags to choose the length of sentences.

I suggest using the word "used" instead of "assumed":

For languages without word boundaries, the number of characters is assumed instead.
->
For languages without word boundaries, the number of characters is used instead.

Another approach would be to treat languages with and without word boundaries on the same footing, rather than to treat the languages without word boundaries as a special case. Then you could eliminate the phrase "word(s)" after each box, and change the text below to say this:

For languages with word boundaries, the number of words is used. For other languages, the number of characters is used.

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gillux gillux July 30, 2023 July 30, 2023 at 5:43:25 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Thank you very much for your feedback and wise suggestions, Alan. 👍
CK also reported word wrapping problem on Github, I think I can combine both of your suggestions and kill two birds with one stone.

About the explanatory text underneath, I am afraid it would get too long and take too much space. Maybe I could move in into some popping up info box or something. After all, once the user is aware of that, there is no need to constantly display it.

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AlanF_US AlanF_US July 31, 2023 July 31, 2023 at 9:26:58 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

It looks great now. Thanks.

gillux gillux July 30, 2023 July 30, 2023 at 5:34:11 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I am reporting a bug to myself %-) Words are incorrectly counted for sentences including a question mark prefixed with a space, an exclamation mark or other non-word character.

https://dev.tatoeba.org/fr/sent...rd_count_min=2

This is a side effect of allowing searching question marks, a feature that was implemented 3 years ago https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/pull/2399

gillux gillux July 30, 2023 July 30, 2023 at 11:19:43 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Thank you for your feedback everybody! I updated the design of the word count search filter on https://dev.tatoeba.org/. I also added some validation rules that should prevent accidentally using conflicting word count filters such as both "At least 10" and "At most 5".

And while I was at it I made the advanced search page responsive.

Feedback still welcome.

Pfirsichbaeumchen Pfirsichbaeumchen August 11, 2023, edited August 11, 2023 August 11, 2023 at 10:50:01 PM UTC, edited August 11, 2023 at 10:51:18 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

"Thank you for your feedback everybody! I updated the design of the word count search filter."

These two sentences have more than 15 words. There are 1,773,638 English sentences as I'm typing these lines. Only about 24% of them (418,818) have 10 words or more. Only 5% of them (88,273) have 15 words or more. That is alarming! 🙂

That being said, thank you so much for setting up this new feature, Gillux. I love it.

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small_snow small_snow August 12, 2023, edited August 12, 2023 August 12, 2023 at 2:08:39 AM UTC, edited August 12, 2023 at 2:09:12 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

私も、今日使ってみてるんですが、とても便利ですね。
gilluxさん、ありがとうございます!

alabama alabama August 7, 2023 August 7, 2023 at 2:29:17 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Guten Tag Tatoeba Gemeinde,
ich habe die Satz Nr. 11984754 vor kurzem erstellt aber festgestellt, dass ein identischer Satz unter der Nummer 2808984 existiert.
Findet in so einem Fall keine automatische Zusammenführung? Soll ich meinen Satz wieder löschen?

Vielen Dank für die Antwort.
Theo

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Pfirsichbaeumchen Pfirsichbaeumchen August 7, 2023 August 7, 2023 at 3:01:28 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Sieh noch mal nach. 😉

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alabama alabama August 7, 2023 August 7, 2023 at 3:17:32 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

aha es gibt einen "Sentences deduplication bot." :-)

alabama alabama August 6, 2023 August 6, 2023 at 6:25:14 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Guten Morgen,
als Neuling beschäftigt mich folgende Frage.
Wenn ich eine Übersetzung hinzufüge, wird diese als ersten Grades dargestellt bezogen auf den übersetzten Quellsalz. In den anderen Sprachen wird meine Übersetzung als zweiten Grades angezeigt. Soll ich meinen Satz dann noch direkt bei den anderen Sprachen die ich kenne als Übersetzung eintrage, um daraus ersten grades zu erreichen? Oder ist das eher unwichtig?
Viele Grüße
Theo

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brauchinet brauchinet August 6, 2023 August 6, 2023 at 6:43:38 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Hallo Theo,
im Prinzip ist es natürlich gut, möglichst viele Übersetzungen ersten Grades zu haben. Wenn du Lust und Laune hast, gib also den selben (oder auch einen modifizierten) Satz zu einer anderen Sprache ein. Wenn die Sätze gleich sind, werden sie vom System zusammengeführt; d.h. dein Satz existiert dann nur mehr einmal und hat dafür mehrere Übersetzungen ersten Grades.
Wenn man "fortgeschrittener Mitarbeiter" ist (man muss sich dazu bewerben), ist es leichter. Es gibt dann eine Funktion, mit der mehr man zwei Sätze einfach "zusammenhängen" kann.

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alabama alabama August 6, 2023 August 6, 2023 at 6:46:26 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Danke Dir :-)

CK CK July 29, 2023 July 29, 2023 at 8:53:21 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

🍎 Tatoeba.org Native Speakers with Native Language Sentences

http://tatoeba.ueuo.com/stats-2023-07-29.html

Find native speakers of languages you are studying and get links to their native language sentences.

Updated: 2023-07-29


I also created a cut-down version that may work better on devices that can't handle the full version.
I cut out all the lines for contributors with less than 50 native-speaker contributions.

http://tatoeba.ueuo.com/stats-2023-07-29cut.html

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CK CK August 1, 2023, edited August 1, 2023 August 1, 2023 at 12:25:25 AM UTC, edited August 1, 2023 at 10:58:11 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

🍎 Stats - 2023-07-29 - Native Speakers with Recent Contributions

http://tatoeba.ueuo.com/stats-2...-29recent.html

The default sort is "Language", "Number of Sentences", "Since 2023-05-20", "Username."

291 members had more than 1 native language contribution between 2023-05-20 and 2023-07-29.

I created this for those who are interested in finding native speakers who have recently been contributing.

This page was inspired by this Github request.
https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/3075

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AlanF_US AlanF_US August 5, 2023 August 5, 2023 at 10:36:59 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Thanks.

Pfirsichbaeumchen Pfirsichbaeumchen July 25, 2023 July 25, 2023 at 9:51:23 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Cabo: https://tatoeba.org/user/profile/Cabo

[ENG] Corpus Maintainer Candidate for Hungarian

Cabo has applied. As usual, please feel free to send us a private message to let us know your opinion (click on the link at the end of this message).

[EPO] Kandidato por iĝi bontenanto de la hungara frazaro

Kandidatas Cabo. Kiel ĉiam ne hezitu sendi privatan mesaĝon por sciigi al ni vian opinion (alklaku la ligilon je la fino de la mesaĝo).

[DEU] Korpuspflegerkandidat für das Ungarische

Cabo hat sich beworben. Wie immer ist jeder eingeladen, sich hierzu in einer Privatnachricht zu äußern (auf die Verknüpfung am Ende dieser Nachricht klicken).

https://tatoeba.org/private_mes...rsichbaeumchen

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Cabo Cabo August 5, 2023 August 5, 2023 at 9:02:12 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

This time it didn't happen.
This is an outcome, too, while probably the first time I ever see this.

Thanks to all the active Hungarian members providing support for the decision.