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CK CK 22 Maret 2025 22 Maret 2025 09.22.27 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Our Newest Audio File Contributor

audio - tur - by futurk
https://tatoeba.org/en/sentence...173486/und/und

Over 300 audio files

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rdgscratch rdgscratch 22 Maret 2025 22 Maret 2025 22.25.50 UTC flag Report link Permalink

What about me?

I sent you some audio recordings 9 days ago!

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rdgscratch rdgscratch 22 Maret 2025 22 Maret 2025 22.29.16 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Also, I made a list of all the recordings I did: https://tatoeba.org/en/sentences_lists/show/173595

CK CK 23 Maret 2025 23 Maret 2025 00.10.14 UTC flag Report link Permalink

I found them in my spam folder. I'll try to deal with them soon.
Your email address looks like a spammer's, I guess.

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rdgscratch rdgscratch 23 Maret 2025 23 Maret 2025 14.35.49 UTC flag Report link Permalink

I'm not a scammer.

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DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez 25 Maret 2025 25 Maret 2025 23.51.11 UTC flag Report link Permalink

No, but the automatic filtering system might have suspected yours for some reason, likely a coincidence.

Beshir Beshir 19 Maret 2025 19 Maret 2025 17.07.52 UTC flag Report link Permalink

I am writing to report a significant issue regarding the language labeling of imported data from Translators Without Borders (TWB) on Tatoeba.

Specifically, a substantial amount of data imported from TWB has been incorrectly labeled as "Tigre" (tig) when it is, in fact, "Tigrinya" (ti). These are two distinct languages, and this mislabeling creates serious inaccuracies within the database.

As a native Tigre speaker, I, along with my colleagues, have been eager to contribute to Tatoeba. However, this existing error is preventing us from accurately adding Tigre language data.

We understand from the TWB user profile (https://tatoeba.org/en/user/profile/TWB) that "As the TWB translators will not be on Tatoeba to correct their sentences." This means that the responsibility for correcting this critical error falls to the Tatoeba administrators.

This is not a minor issue; it fundamentally compromises the integrity of the language data and obstructs the contributions of native Tigre speakers. The correct language codes are:

Tigrinya: "ti"
Tigre: "tig"
We urge you to take immediate action to rectify this mislabeling. We are prepared to provide specific examples of incorrectly labeled sentences if needed.

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abiniz abiniz 19 Maret 2025 19 Maret 2025 21.26.09 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Hello Beshir,

Here in Tatoeba, we use three-letter ISO codes instead of two, so Tigrinya should be "tir".

Thanks for understanding :)

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Beshir Beshir 20 Maret 2025 20 Maret 2025 04.32.26 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Thank you for your response. I understand you've confirmed the ISO 639-3 codes: "tir" for Tigrinya and "tig" for Tigre.

However, there is a critical error: sentences labeled as Tigre, specifically those contributed by user "TWB", are actually Tigrinya sentences.

As a native speaker of both Tigrinya and Tigre, I can confidently identify this mislabeling.

Here's a breakdown of the issue:

Incorrect Labeling: User "TWB" has submitted Tigrinya sentences that are currently labeled as Tigre.
Confirmation: This error is also noted in the comments of Sentence #10898663, where user "Pathawi" correctly identifies the sentence as Tigrinya, not Tigre.
Impact: Currently, there are 3,800+ sentences labeled as Tigre, contributed by users "dagnaq" and "TWB". The sentences from "TWB" are the problem.
Resolution: All sentences submitted by user "TWB" that are currently labeled as Tigre must be re-labeled as Tigrinya.
This mislabeling is negatively impacting both language communities:

It discourages Tigrinya speakers from using Tatoeba due to the incorrect categorization.
It discourages Tigre speakers from using Tatoeba due to the inaccurate data.
Correcting the labels will significantly increase the Tigrinya sentence count.
Correcting the labels will encourage Tigre speakers to contribute to Tatoeba.
Please take immediate action to correct the labeling of user "TWB's" contributions.

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lbdx lbdx 20 Maret 2025 20 Maret 2025 10.03.14 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Hello Beshir,

I'm the one who created the TWB account to batch-add the Gamayun kits sentences using scripts.

Indeed, it seems that the sentences in Tigre are actually in Tigrinya. The error comes from the name of the source file, which uses the language identifier 'tig' instead of 'tir'.
https://github.com/translatorsw...ng-tig_TIG.txt

I apologize for this mistake. I'll try to write a script that changes the language identifier of these sentences. Sadly, this will take some time.

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Beshir Beshir 20 Maret 2025 20 Maret 2025 16.29.54 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Is there's anything I can help with to speed up the correction process.

Does it help to temporarily remove the sentences from the Tigre category? Then, when you have time, re-import them into the correct Tigrinia category?

Can you provide estimated time
Thank you

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TWB TWB 21 Maret 2025 21 Maret 2025 07.38.49 UTC flag Report link Permalink

My Tigre sentences have been moved to the Tigrinya corpus. Please feel free to adopt and improve them. This will increase their visibility for language learners.

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Beshir Beshir 21 Maret 2025 21 Maret 2025 09.51.44 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Thank you very much for your prompt response.

monsen_sanang_ai monsen_sanang_ai 17 Maret 2025 17 Maret 2025 06.55.36 UTC flag Report link Permalink

I am very new here and still finding my way around. I joined because I heard we can translate sentences from one language to another and wanted to do the same for my native language Ao from English. I do not know how to get Ao added to the languages supported here. Can anyone please help me?

Ao uses just English alphabet and is written from left to right just like English. It has got 3 mutually unintelligible dialects (Mongsen Ao, Tsüngli/Jungli Ao and Changki Ao) so I do not know whether a single language Ao should be added and the dialects should be indicated in the translated sentences or 3 new seperate language entries should be made for each dialect (Mongsen Ao, Changki Ao etc.). I don't know what is the policy regarding such situations but I am okay both ways. For info, my native tongue is Mongsen Ao, but I am well versed in Tsüngli/Jungli Ao through formal education. Regarding Changki Ao, I can add only a few common expressions at most and therefore, best left to someone who speaks it natively.
Thank you for reading this wall post.

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Guybrush88 Guybrush88 17 Maret 2025, diedit 17 Maret 2025 17 Maret 2025 08.31.46 UTC, diedit 17 Maret 2025 08.32.01 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Hi and welcome. These are the steps to request a new language: https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...nguage-request

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monsen_sanang_ai monsen_sanang_ai 17 Maret 2025 17 Maret 2025 08.50.57 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Thank you so much. Will try and apply even if adding new languages is paused for now...according to the page.

Vortarulo Vortarulo 20 Maret 2025 20 Maret 2025 19.45.06 UTC flag Report link Permalink

I agree and would also suggest to add specifically Mongsen Ao, like you suggest, and not "Ao" in general. Great to have this language here in the future!

sheepdog sheepdog 16 Maret 2025 16 Maret 2025 03.20.25 UTC flag Report link Permalink

I have translated an English book into German. The English is copyrighted, of course. But I do not think the German, taken sentence by sentence randomly, for educational purposes, would be considered a copyright infringement, would it?

Also, I would not want to enter the sentences here one at a time. Is there a method of loading the sentences in batches?

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DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez 16 Maret 2025 16 Maret 2025 07.19.47 UTC flag Report link Permalink

I believe derivatives of copyrighted work still fall under copyright, although if the selected sentences are likely to be used elsewhere in real life conversation it probably won't matter much.

Also, to my knowledge there aren't ways, at least for non-admins, to upload batches of sentences.

AlanF_US AlanF_US 18 Maret 2025 18 Maret 2025 22.17.18 UTC flag Report link Permalink

> But I do not think the German, taken sentence by sentence randomly, for educational purposes, would be considered a copyright infringement, would it?

It would. Please don't do it.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 16 Maret 2025 16 Maret 2025 19.28.36 UTC flag Report link Permalink

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rdgscratch rdgscratch 9 Maret 2025 9 Maret 2025 04.32.18 UTC flag Report link Permalink

I want someone to record audio from my sentences!

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rul rul 11 Maret 2025 11 Maret 2025 13.02.35 UTC flag Report link Permalink

You're not in my next batch of sentences to record, but I'll try to keep you in mind for the one after that.

CK CK 12 Maret 2025, diedit 12 Maret 2025 12 Maret 2025 01.34.34 UTC, diedit 12 Maret 2025 01.34.55 UTC flag Report link Permalink

For your native language, you can record your own sentences.
See this page in the wiki.
https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...ntribute-audio

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rdgscratch rdgscratch 13 Maret 2025, diedit 13 Maret 2025 13 Maret 2025 22.04.32 UTC, diedit 13 Maret 2025 22.19.39 UTC flag Report link Permalink

I'm using a CHROMEBOOK!

I mean, check your e-mail.