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TRANG TRANG hier, modifiée le hier 4 août 2020 à 22:19, modifiée le 4 août 2020 à 22:20 link Permalien

** What's New on Tatoeba? - Your biweekly recap #22 **

(What's New on Tatoeba will be published biweekly until the end of August.)


KODOEBA EVENT

※ We are in the last week of Kodoeba and we have five new issues solved on internal code since last time.

• It is now possible to remove a sentence from a list from the sentence page. Thanks to Ricardo14 for reporting the issue and nummer_001 for implementing it.
• There is a new visibility option for lists, in case you want your list to be shown on the sentence page to every user (and not just to yourself). Thanks to soliloquist for raising the issue and nummer_001 for working on it.
• Unicode characters are now showing up properly in list names. Thanks to soliloquist for reporting the issue and ftumsh for fixing it.
• You can now save create URL for templates from the advanced search. Thanks to Ricardo14 for triggering the idea and jpear1 for implementing it.
• The sort options have been redesigned. Thanks to Trang for the design suggestion, AlanF_US for the help with the wording and Roverandom789133 for the implementation.

※ There are three additional external projects which you can have a peek at:

• quielin's TatoebaViewer mobile app (it's still a prototype): https://github.com/Tatoeba/TatoebaViewer
• xiuyuan's website to search Chinese sentences (work still in progress): https://www.chineseboost.com/ch...mple-sentences
• diegohn's flashcard webapp (not deployed anywhere, but there's a video explaining how to install it locally): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad0tP00z_VQ


UPDATES

※ Mobile users can now change the position of the cursor in text inputs. Thanks to rumpelstilzchen for reporting this bug and Trang for fixing it.

※ When searching sentences sorted randomly, the results are no longer re-randomized when going back to a previous page. Thanks to AlanF_US for reporting the issue and gillux for fixing it.


ON THE WALL

※ driini announced that the Quick Start Guide has been fully translated into German: https://tatoeba.org/eng/wall/show_message/35705

※ CK announced that we have a new Japanese voice: https://tatoeba.org/eng/wall/show_message/35698

※ OptiMaximus asked what "Tatoeba" means: https://tatoeba.org/eng/wall/show_message/35679

※ pergpau brought up the topic of quality in the corpus and subsequently became an advanced contributor to help improve the quality of Norwegian Bokmål sentences: https://tatoeba.org/eng/wall/show_message/35667


LANGUAGES

※ Tatoeba is supporting one new language: Karakhanid.

※ Slovak has been enabled on production as a UI language.

As usual, thanks to all the members who helped to translate the website!

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If you'd like to help to the development of Tatoeba, report issues, or are just curious, have a look at the GitHub repository.

If you want to help us translate the website to your language, you can join us on Transifex: https://www.transifex.com/tatoe...ite/dashboard/ and check this article on the wiki https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...e-translation.

If you're especially happy with one of the updates, don't hesitate to personally thank our developers :) They're working in the shadow but they'll be glad to hear your feedback.

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Last recap: https://tatoeba.org/eng/wall/show_message/35658
See this recap on the blog: https://blog.tatoeba.org/2020/0...-biweekly.html

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AlanF_US AlanF_US il y a 7 heures 5 août 2020 à 22:45 link Permalien

> • The sort options have been redesigned. Thanks to Trang for the design suggestion, AlanF_US for the help with the wording and Roverandom789133 for the implementation.

Is it the sort options or the list options that have been redesigned? I thought I offered help with the wording for the list options.

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rumpelstilzchen rumpelstilzchen il y a 2 heures 6 août 2020 à 04:19 link Permalien

You've helped with the wording for both. :-)

The wording for the sort options was discussed back in February: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tato...ment-583938660

TRANG TRANG il y a 20 jours 16 juillet 2020 à 20:30 link Permalien

**Responsive search results**

I have deployed on the dev website an attempt at making the search results responsive and will need some feedback. If you have time, please visit the dev website from your smartphone/tablet and do some search. Also do check from your desktop that everything is still displayed properly.

https://dev.tatoeba.org

Note that the responsive version is only applied on the search results for non-authenticated users. If you are logged in, you will still see the search results in as a miniature of the desktop version.

Thank you for testing!

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CK CK il y a 20 jours 17 juillet 2020 à 04:05 link Permalien

Usually with responsive webpages, what's on the right goes underneath what's on the left on smaller screens.

The way you have it, what's on the right seems to totally disappear.

Here are some screenshots.


New Responsive Search Results on an iPod Touch
https://imgur.com/a/1UNnGnu

New Responsive Search Results on a DeskTop (MacOS Chrome)
https://imgur.com/a/J4ElyF5

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TRANG TRANG il y a 16 jours 20 juillet 2020 à 21:23 link Permalien

> The way you have it, what's on the right seems to totally disappear.

The sidebar is indeed hidden by default but it can be displayed by clicking the "more" icon (the three dots) on the right side of the search input.

From your iPod Touch screenshot, I can see that if the language name is too long (or if the width of the screen is too small), part of the UI will be cut off from the visible part of the screen. This becomes more obvious if you switch to a language that has a very long label, like "Português (Brazil)". The fact that the right side of the page part was not shown may have made you miss the button that opens the advanced search options. Or perhaps the icon is not obvious enough.

In any case, I deployed some additional changes to make the menu fit completely in small screens.

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CK CK il y a 16 jours 21 juillet 2020 à 01:32 link Permalien

I didn't notice those 3 dots. I wonder if others will.

1. https://imgur.com/a/1UNnGnu
They don't show on my iPod screen.

2. They didn't show on my desktop screen either. Of course, that's my fault, since I use Stylish to change colors so that tatoeba.org is easily readable for me.

I wish tatoeba.org would consider following some accessibility guidelines to help those who have trouble with low contrast colors.
https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/1164

I know it's hard for those who don't have this kind of vision problem to notice things like this.

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TRANG TRANG il y a 15 jours 21 juillet 2020 à 15:32 link Permalien

> 1. https://imgur.com/a/1UNnGnu
> They don't show on my iPod screen.

But do they show now? Your screenshots were taken before I deployed the additional changes.

> 2. They didn't show on my desktop screen either.

They are not supposed to be shown on desktop screen size.

> I wish tatoeba.org would consider following some accessibility guidelines
> to help those who have trouble with low contrast colors.

Please see my comment:
https://github.com/Tatoeba/tato...ment-408597172

MisterTrouser MisterTrouser il y a 15 jours 22 juillet 2020 à 04:01 link Permalien

Thank you Trang, for all your work!

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TRANG TRANG il y a 14 jours 22 juillet 2020 à 21:09 link Permalien

Thank you for your encouragement :)

TRANG TRANG il y a 4 jours 1 août 2020 à 20:33 link Permalien

There has been some new changes, most notably to make the access to the advanced search form on mobile more intuitive.

The changes have been deployed on the dev website:
https://dev.tatoeba.org/

If you have time, please test again and let me know if you are facing any other issue.

Thank you!

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driini driini il y a 2 jours 3 août 2020 à 20:48 link Permalien

I tried to check my private messages via my mobile. But I couldn't see any mail at the right side. It was cut off.

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TRANG TRANG hier 4 août 2020 à 18:49 link Permalien

Could you upload a screenshot of what it looks like?

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driini driini hier 4 août 2020 à 20:53 link Permalien

Sorry, I don't know where to upload it. I never did here.
Via dropbox? Should I create an URL? How?

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TRANG TRANG hier 4 août 2020 à 20:58 link Permalien

There's no feature on Tatoeba to upload pictures, but there are many websites where you can upload.

As far as I'm concerned, I usually use imgur:
https://imgur.com/upload

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driini driini hier 4 août 2020 à 22:01 link Permalien

https://imgur.com/a/9nyTx4s

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TRANG TRANG hier 4 août 2020 à 22:28 link Permalien

What is your browser?

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driini driini hier 4 août 2020 à 23:16 link Permalien

FirefoxLite

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TRANG TRANG il y a 11 heures 5 août 2020 à 19:26 link Permalien

I'm unfortunately not able to install it on my phone but perhaps you could check if there's a way to view the page in "desktop mode". That could be a workaround for the time being. The problem will eventually be fixed when the private messages section is made responsive.

driini driini il y a 2 jours 3 août 2020 à 20:42 link Permalien

Wie wollen wir es im deutschen Tatoeba-Wiki mit den Gender-Formen halten? Wenn ich Sternchen benutze, kommt das HTML durcheinander (es wird kursiv) und wenn ich die Sternchen weglasse, werden alle Personen weiblich. Auch mal schön zur Abwechslung, aber ich könnte mir vorstellen, dass es auf Widerspruch trifft.
(https://de.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...-translation#)

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Pfirsichbaeumchen Pfirsichbaeumchen il y a 2 jours, modifiée le il y a 2 jours 4 août 2020 à 01:47, modifiée le 4 août 2020 à 01:55 link Permalien

Am besten gar keine Genderformen. Ich denke, keiner von uns wird sich ausgeschlossen fühlen, wenn schlicht von „Benutzern“ o. ä. die Rede ist. (Lieber sagen wir „Mitglied“, wo es ohnehin keine Rolle spielt.) Wenn es aber konkret um eine Person geht, sollte man natürlich „Tatoeba-Gründerin Trang“ o. ä. schreiben.

AlanF_US AlanF_US hier, modifiée le hier 4 août 2020 à 13:52, modifiée le 4 août 2020 à 13:53 link Permalien

In the wiki markup language, you can force an asterisk to be interpreted as an ordinary character by putting a backslash before it.

driini driini il y a 4 jours 1 août 2020 à 18:05 link Permalien

Der Quick Start Guide ist jetzt komplett auf Deutsch übersetzt und soweit ich es geprüft habe, funktionieren auch die Links darin.
Cool wäre, wenn jetzt jemand den Link von der deutschen Tatoeba-Seite direkt auf die deutsche Schnellstartanleitung lenkt (https://de.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...chnellstart#).
Bisher zeigt er auf die englische Variante.
merci

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TRANG TRANG il y a 4 jours 1 août 2020 à 20:26 link Permalien

Vielen Dank für deine Übersetzungen :)

As for matching the link from tatoeba.org to the correct language in wiki.tatoeba.org, the issue has already been raised:
https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/2177

It is not exactly simple to solve, but it is definitely in our todo list.

CK CK il y a 7 jours 30 juillet 2020 à 03:06 link Permalien

We currently have 38,067 sentences with audio files that have no linked translations.
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...irect&from=und

30,198 of these are sentences in English
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...irect&from=eng

7,187 of these are sentences in Spanish
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...irect&from=spa

delenir delenir il y a 7 jours 29 juillet 2020 à 11:37 link Permalien

How does one go about reporting a phrase with inappropriate content? (for example, racial slurs.)

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AlanF_US AlanF_US il y a 7 jours 29 juillet 2020 à 12:25 link Permalien

You can send a private message to a corpus maintainer for the language in question, or you can send an e-mail to the address listed on this page:

https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...-bad-behavior#

CK CK il y a 8 jours 29 juillet 2020 à 05:43 link Permalien

We have a new Japanese voice.

Lowteq has contributed 123 audio files.

https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...how/168586/und

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Ricardo14 Ricardo14 il y a 7 jours 29 juillet 2020 à 13:56 link Permalien

Amazing! :D

sharptoothed sharptoothed il y a 10 jours 26 juillet 2020 à 17:34 link Permalien

** Stats & Graphs **

Tatoeba Stats, Graphs & Charts have been updated:
https://tatoeba.j-langtools.com/allstats/

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Guybrush88 Guybrush88 il y a 10 jours 26 juillet 2020 à 19:17 link Permalien

thanks

Ricardo14 Ricardo14 il y a 9 jours 27 juillet 2020 à 16:40 link Permalien

thank you

OptiMaximus OptiMaximus il y a 12 jours 25 juillet 2020 à 03:29 link Permalien

what does tatoeba mean? What is the etiology of this group?
sanx

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CK CK il y a 12 jours 25 juillet 2020 à 03:35 link Permalien

[#735187] "Tatoeba" in Japanese means "for example". (Eldad)

AlanF_US AlanF_US il y a 11 jours, modifiée le il y a 11 jours 25 juillet 2020 à 15:41, modifiée le 25 juillet 2020 à 15:41 link Permalien

Here's Trang's "The story of Tatoeba", from 2013:

https://blog.tatoeba.org/2013/0...f-tatoeba.html

Here's CK's timeline, as of 2014:

http://a4esl.org/temporary/tatoeba/history/

And here's the Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatoeba

CK CK il y a 9 jours 27 juillet 2020 à 08:09 link Permalien

https://youtu.be/lHotYMpKbr8
A video of Trang talking about the Tatoeba Project (Feb 13, 2020)

pergpau pergpau il y a 12 jours, modifiée le il y a 12 jours 24 juillet 2020 à 16:23, modifiée le 24 juillet 2020 à 16:23 link Permalien

There are so many sentences wrongly translated by non-native users. Many of these by users who no longer log in. How can these sentences "be saved"? It's polluting the quality of the entire project.

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AlanF_US AlanF_US il y a 12 jours 24 juillet 2020 à 17:36 link Permalien

Please add comments to the translated sentences. Also, please consider applying to become an advanced contributor so that you can add tags to make sure the sentences are regularly reviewed, and then to become a corpus maintainer so that you can fix sentences yourself.

According to your profile, you are a native speaker of Norwegian Bokmål. We have a large backlog of sentences in that language that are tagged "@needs native check". (See https://tatoeba.org/eng/wall/sh...#message_35653 . ) Any help you can give us would be greatly appreciated!

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pergpau pergpau il y a 12 jours 24 juillet 2020 à 18:49 link Permalien

Thanks for the quick reply. The problem is that leaving comments does nothing when the original owner has stopped using tatoeba. So the answer is that this problem is basically up to the "corpus maintainers" to fix?

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AlanF_US AlanF_US il y a 12 jours 24 juillet 2020 à 19:25 link Permalien

Yes, that's what corpus maintainers do.

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pergpau pergpau il y a 11 jours 25 juillet 2020 à 09:54 link Permalien

I have been giving it some thought and have decided to apply to become an advanced contributor, and later a corpus maintainer. I'm pretty busy with other projects, but I also feel the Tatoeba project is way to important for it be riddled with so many poor sentences. I will find the time to contribute.

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Thanuir Thanuir il y a 11 jours 25 juillet 2020 à 11:30 link Permalien

Mange takk.

AlanF_US AlanF_US il y a 11 jours 25 juillet 2020 à 15:32 link Permalien

I'm very glad to hear it! From CK's table ( https://tatoeba.org/eng/wall/sh...#message_35681 ), I can see that no native speakers other than you have contributed sentences in the last month. Given the absence of other active native speakers, your help will be especially valuable.

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pergpau pergpau il y a 11 jours 25 juillet 2020 à 16:14 link Permalien

I am now an AC and actively linking, tagging and commenting nob sentences :)

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AlanF_US AlanF_US il y a 11 jours 25 juillet 2020 à 16:21 link Permalien

Excellent!

Objectivesea Objectivesea il y a 10 jours 26 juillet 2020 à 10:47 link Permalien

Jeg gratulerer deg med avtalen din. Mi gratulas vin pri via nomumo. I congratulate you on your appointment.

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pergpau pergpau il y a 10 jours 26 juillet 2020 à 10:49 link Permalien

Takktakk :)

Ricardo14 Ricardo14 il y a 12 jours 24 juillet 2020 à 17:45 link Permalien

How to become an Advanced Contributor - https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...d-contributors

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AlanF_US AlanF_US il y a 11 jours 25 juillet 2020 à 15:33 link Permalien

Thanks, Ricardo.

pergpau pergpau il y a 12 jours 24 juillet 2020 à 18:54 link Permalien

I have an MA in second language acquisition and I have taught Norwegian as a second language at a university in Oslo for many years. I guess I'm formally qualified, but I don't know if I have time to contribute as much as you expect from a superuser.

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Thanuir Thanuir il y a 12 jours 24 juillet 2020 à 19:00 link Permalien

Det er så mange feil ved norske setninger at noen som bare går gjennom dem, uansett hvor langsomt eller snabbt, og gjør dem bedre, er allerede verdifull.

Jeg har bare boet i Norge for et par år og har allerede funnet mange problem.

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AlanF_US AlanF_US il y a 12 jours 24 juillet 2020 à 19:33 link Permalien

As Thanuir says, any amount would help. One thing that would help that would not require an ongoing commitment would be to look through the native Norwegian Bokmål speakers ( https://tatoeba.org/eng/users/for_language/nob ) and figure out which active members know the language well and might also be interested in helping out. If you or Thanuir would be interested in doing that, please feel free to send me a private message.