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CK CK 23 de xaneiro de 2023 07:22:19 UTC do 23 de xaneiro de 2023 link Permalink

馃崕 A list with over 2,000 Japanese sentences that don't have kanji

https://tatoeba.org/en/sentences_lists/show/170911

All sentences on this list are owned by native Japanese speakers.

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sacredceltic sacredceltic 24 de xaneiro de 2023 10:26:56 UTC do 24 de xaneiro de 2023 link Permalink

Maybe Kanjis are out of fashion nowadays with younger natives…

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Objectivesea Objectivesea 28 de xaneiro de 2023 20:33:22 UTC do 28 de xaneiro de 2023 link Permalink

With respect, I beg to differ, @sacredceltic. It is true that after World War II, the Japanese Ministry of Education has curtailed the use of kanji to some degree, but a Japanese high school graduate will have learnt the 2,136 kanji and will generally use these appropriately.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_j艒y艒_kanji

I do not speak Japanese, but I picked one sentence at random from @CK’s list (https://tatoeba.org/en/sentence...s/show/170911) and entered it into Google Translate:

#11011895 — posted by @small_snow
銉愩偒銇樸們銇亜銇紵

Google translated it as « Êtes-vous stupide ? » Reversing the direction of translation — that is, going from French to generate Japanese, reproduced the original sentence, written « 銉愩偒銇樸們銇亜銇紵» or, in romaji, « Bakajanaino? »

While the majority of sentences in Japanese will likely include one or more kanji, I think that @CK may just have intended to produce an interesting list of sentences that correctly use no kanji *because no kanji are needed* to express the words constituting those sentences, currently numbering 2,351.

Rather than somehow labelling these 2,351 sentences as being informal or less literary Japanese, I think the intent may just have been to help beginning students of Japanese, who will have mastered the hiragana syllabary but who have not yet learnt many of the j艒y艒 kanji — a process which takes many years in a typical Japanese person's education.

Kind regards,
Erik (Objectivesea)