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sharptoothed sharptoothed 1 de setembro de 2014 12:05:34 UTC do 1 de setembro de 2014 link Permalink

There are examples and examples, you know. If an example raises debates about grammar, language usage, translation adequacy, etc. - this is one situation. And if arguments start about ideological message that example possesses, this is quite another situation. Of course, "don't touch it and it won't stink" approach works well, but many members would prefer to not have "it" here at all, I believe.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 1 de setembro de 2014 10:39:54 UTC do 1 de setembro de 2014 link Permalink

> one should read Tatoeba's content as being there only for the "example" rather than taking the "this sentence is on tatoeba" has a "the author/tatoeba supports that idea".

The problem that odexed tries to point out is that there are certain members who use Tatoeba as a rostrum to spread ideas they support. "Sometimes it's important to wake up even the Tom and Mary's land of Nod", they say trying to "open our eyes". This practice has nothing to do with example sentences, this is rather examples of ideology or propaganda. If I want to get some of such "enlightening" examples, I'm sure I'd go to some news or government site or elsewhere, but not to Tatoeba.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 28 de maio de 2014 07:42:01 UTC do 28 de maio de 2014 link Permalink

グレイト・マインドス・シンック・エライック・ユ・ノウ ^^

sharptoothed sharptoothed 28 de maio de 2014 07:25:38 UTC do 28 de maio de 2014 link Permalink

エンド・ヲッタ・エバウット・カタカナ・ラッシャン? ;-)

sharptoothed sharptoothed 27 de abril de 2014 20:04:50 UTC do 27 de abril de 2014 link Permalink

For some reason, Tatoeba search engine ignores plain "why" in queries. Try to search for "=why".

sharptoothed sharptoothed 20 de abril de 2014 20:06:37 UTC do 20 de abril de 2014 link Permalink

Another problem is that Cyrillic and Latin letters look differently in this font (at least on my PC) and this is just awful. :'(

sharptoothed sharptoothed 1 de marzo de 2014 17:57:58 UTC do 1 de marzo de 2014 link Permalink

Hi! Nice to see you here.
タトエバへようこそ!^^

sharptoothed sharptoothed 26 de xaneiro de 2014 10:18:14 UTC do 26 de xaneiro de 2014 link Permalink

Nice song and great idea as well. Thanks, Alex! :-)

sharptoothed sharptoothed 19 de xaneiro de 2014 18:00:22 UTC do 19 de xaneiro de 2014 link Permalink

It would be also nice if tag auto-suggestion drop-down list get worked again.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 16 de xaneiro de 2014 12:00:38 UTC do 16 de xaneiro de 2014 link Permalink

С повышеньицем! :-)

sharptoothed sharptoothed 2 de xaneiro de 2014 18:17:27 UTC do 2 de xaneiro de 2014 link Permalink

It seems that the search engine is completely non-functional at the moment.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 31 de decembro de 2013 15:21:37 UTC do 31 de decembro de 2013 link Permalink

The New Year came to Japan a few minutes ago. High time to start celebrating! :-)
明けましておめでとうございます! ^^

sharptoothed sharptoothed 13 de decembro de 2013 21:15:25 UTC do 13 de decembro de 2013 link Permalink

Judging by the file size changes, some nice person still cares about the Japanese indices, but, to all appearance, not very intensive.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 25 de outubro de 2013 08:19:52 UTC do 25 de outubro de 2013 link Permalink

Добро пожаловать на Татоэбу! :-)
> Волнует меня одно в первую очередь -меня не расплющат в бумажный лист...

Предыдущий оратор всё предельно точно изложил: никто Вас плющить ни во что не будет. :-) Надо только иметь в виду, что многие участники относятся к своим "детишкам" (предложениям, сиречь) настолько ревностно, что будут защищать их всеми зубами и когтями, сколь бы ужасными их отпрыски ни были. К этому надо быть готовым. :-)

sharptoothed sharptoothed 22 de outubro de 2013 09:45:57 UTC do 22 de outubro de 2013 link Permalink

> I strongly belive: linking sentences is a right of
> advanced contributors, not an obligation.

Indeed, being an AC or a CM is not an obligation. On the other hand, nobody compels a member to become an AC to say nothing of a CM. Doesn't higher position implies a bit higher responsibility and a bit lesser freedom as well? Of course, in voluntary community people do what they want (within the limits of the rules, though) but if one doesn't want to use his extra rights, why bother gaining them?

sharptoothed sharptoothed 21 de outubro de 2013 22:33:38 UTC do 21 de outubro de 2013 link Permalink

I think we just need a reasonable compromise between corpus needs and computational needs. Regular corpus cleaning and de-duplication is among the essentials, I believe. In any case, it's up to us to not make things worse. As we say, it's clean not where they clean up but where they don't litter. :-)

sharptoothed sharptoothed 21 de outubro de 2013 22:24:58 UTC do 21 de outubro de 2013 link Permalink

Indeed, the newly added sentence has more chances to be translated than the older one, and, yes, the new translation maybe better than old. But to re-think the existing version we have to be aware of its existence at least. That is, in overall the corpus search is more effective than adding (potential) duplicates.
Besides, in the majority of cases duplicates are either basic/simple sentences (greetings, for example) or well-known quotations (Bible, proverbs, etc.) and I don't think the benefit surpasses the burden in this situation.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 21 de outubro de 2013 21:54:14 UTC do 21 de outubro de 2013 link Permalink

> I think that time someone proved how they can become beneficial to the corpus.

I'd really like to learn his arguments since I don't understand how the waste of storage and CPU time, excessive complexity of graph structure and non-optimal search results not to mention the waste of efforts of members translating duplicates time and time again can be of any benefit to the corpus.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 21 de outubro de 2013 20:29:51 UTC do 21 de outubro de 2013 link Permalink

Sorry, I should have added more smileys to my comment. :-)
Joking apart, duplicates are not harmful provided that de-duplication is being performed regularly. Sorry to say, I don't remember when it was done last time.

sharptoothed sharptoothed 21 de outubro de 2013 19:40:05 UTC do 21 de outubro de 2013 link Permalink

> ... should I add the same sentence as a new direct translation?

No, you shouldn't since duplicates are not welcome on Tatoeba and you have to avoid adding duplicate sentences tooth and nail. :-) Advanced users and corpus maintainers can link any pair of sentences so if you feel that sentence #12345 can be linked to sentence #67890 - just add an appropriate comment and someone will take care about that pair.