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Sentence #442542

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Vortarulo Vortarulo 7 თებერვალი, 2011 7 თებერვალი, 2011, 19:40:28 UTC link Permalink

Skribi la komencon minuskle kaj forgesi la punkton je l' fino — jes, tio ne eblas. :)

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der 14 ნოემბერი, 2011 14 ნოემბერი, 2011, 11:15:57 UTC link Permalink

>*Ne eblas.<

Tiu frazo sen subjekto* ne estas gramatike kompleta frazo, sed elipso, kiun oni povas uzi en parolata lingvo, se antauiris konvena kunteksto. Tamen ankaŭ tiam temas fakte pri esprimo kontraŭ la gramatika regulo. Doni ĝin kiel modelan frazon, kaj eĉ sen kunteksto peras malĝustan bildon pri la lingvo.

*(cetere kontraste al la nederlanda kaj portugala tradukoj).

GrizaLeono GrizaLeono 14 ნოემბერი, 2011 14 ნოემბერი, 2011, 16:42:37 UTC link Permalink

Korektite.
Dankon.
Informe: en la nederlanda oni diras "Het regent", dum en Esperanto miascie oni ĉiam diras, ke pluvas, sed subjekto. Same "varmas", ktp.
En Fundamenta Krestomatio mi trovis "— Ĉu estas vere, Herman?"
Mi vidis plurajn sensubjektajn frazojn kun "estas vere" en http://tekstaro.com
Do supozeble mia frazo ne estis tiel kontraŭregula.

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der 14 ნოემბერი, 2011 14 ნოემბერი, 2011, 17:26:17 UTC link Permalink

Vi pravas; sensubjektaj verboj ekzistas en Esperanto, sed tio estas limigita malgranda grupo.

Precipe temas pri verboj priskribantaj fenomenojn de vetero kaj klimato:

pluvi, neĝi, hajli, fulmi, tondri, tagiĝi, noktiĝi, vesperiĝi, vesperi.... krepuski, someras, aŭtuniĝi, vintriĝi... plus malmultaj aliaj

kaj ekster tiu temokampo : temi

Kaj fine: se esti peras fizikan impreson, ankaŭ ĝi rajtas aperi sen subjekto:

estas varme, estas agrable..

Pri ekzemploj el Fundamenta Krestomatio ni prefere ne parolu, Zamenhof kun lia karakteriza delikateco kaj toleremo lasis fakte la tekstojn de aliaj kontribuintoj preskaŭ sen ŝanĝoj (laŭ kredeblaj informoj de Waringhien), kvankam iom alia komento en la antaŭvortoj de F.K.

marcelostockle marcelostockle 15 აპრილი, 2012 15 აპრილი, 2012, 00:56:44 UTC link Permalink

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Horus Horus 20 იანვარი, 2015 20 იანვარი, 2015, 01:10:52 UTC link Permalink

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Horus Horus 20 ივლისი, 2015 20 ივლისი, 2015, 09:30:42 UTC link Permalink

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Horus Horus 26 აგვისტო, 2022 26 აგვისტო, 2022, 15:32:03 UTC link Permalink

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #384166Dat kan niet!.

Tio ne eblas.

added by koosscharroo, 29 ივლისი, 2010

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Tio ne eblas.

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tio ne eblas

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Tio ne eblas.

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Ne eblas.

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Tio ne eblas.

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Tio ne eblas.

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Tio ne eblas.

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