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sharptoothed sharptoothed September 1, 2014 September 1, 2014 at 10:39:54 AM UTC link Lînko payîdar

> one should read Tatoeba's content as being there only for the "example" rather than taking the "this sentence is on tatoeba" has a "the author/tatoeba supports that idea".

The problem that odexed tries to point out is that there are certain members who use Tatoeba as a rostrum to spread ideas they support. "Sometimes it's important to wake up even the Tom and Mary's land of Nod", they say trying to "open our eyes". This practice has nothing to do with example sentences, this is rather examples of ideology or propaganda. If I want to get some of such "enlightening" examples, I'm sure I'd go to some news or government site or elsewhere, but not to Tatoeba.

sharptoothed sharptoothed May 28, 2014 May 28, 2014 at 7:42:01 AM UTC link Lînko payîdar

グレイト・マインドス・シンック・エライック・ユ・ノウ ^^

sharptoothed sharptoothed May 28, 2014 May 28, 2014 at 7:25:38 AM UTC link Lînko payîdar

エンド・ヲッタ・エバウット・カタカナ・ラッシャン? ;-)

sharptoothed sharptoothed April 27, 2014 April 27, 2014 at 8:04:50 PM UTC link Lînko payîdar

For some reason, Tatoeba search engine ignores plain "why" in queries. Try to search for "=why".

sharptoothed sharptoothed April 20, 2014 April 20, 2014 at 8:06:37 PM UTC link Lînko payîdar

Another problem is that Cyrillic and Latin letters look differently in this font (at least on my PC) and this is just awful. :'(

sharptoothed sharptoothed March 1, 2014 March 1, 2014 at 5:57:58 PM UTC link Lînko payîdar

Hi! Nice to see you here.
タトエバへようこそ!^^

sharptoothed sharptoothed January 26, 2014 January 26, 2014 at 10:18:14 AM UTC link Lînko payîdar

Nice song and great idea as well. Thanks, Alex! :-)

sharptoothed sharptoothed January 19, 2014 January 19, 2014 at 6:00:22 PM UTC link Lînko payîdar

It would be also nice if tag auto-suggestion drop-down list get worked again.

sharptoothed sharptoothed January 16, 2014 January 16, 2014 at 12:00:38 PM UTC link Lînko payîdar

С повышеньицем! :-)

sharptoothed sharptoothed January 2, 2014 January 2, 2014 at 6:17:27 PM UTC link Lînko payîdar

It seems that the search engine is completely non-functional at the moment.

sharptoothed sharptoothed December 31, 2013 December 31, 2013 at 3:21:37 PM UTC link Lînko payîdar

The New Year came to Japan a few minutes ago. High time to start celebrating! :-)
明けましておめでとうございます! ^^

sharptoothed sharptoothed December 13, 2013 December 13, 2013 at 9:15:25 PM UTC link Lînko payîdar

Judging by the file size changes, some nice person still cares about the Japanese indices, but, to all appearance, not very intensive.

sharptoothed sharptoothed October 25, 2013 October 25, 2013 at 8:19:52 AM UTC link Lînko payîdar

Добро пожаловать на Татоэбу! :-)
> Волнует меня одно в первую очередь -меня не расплющат в бумажный лист...

Предыдущий оратор всё предельно точно изложил: никто Вас плющить ни во что не будет. :-) Надо только иметь в виду, что многие участники относятся к своим "детишкам" (предложениям, сиречь) настолько ревностно, что будут защищать их всеми зубами и когтями, сколь бы ужасными их отпрыски ни были. К этому надо быть готовым. :-)

sharptoothed sharptoothed October 22, 2013 October 22, 2013 at 9:45:57 AM UTC link Lînko payîdar

> I strongly belive: linking sentences is a right of
> advanced contributors, not an obligation.

Indeed, being an AC or a CM is not an obligation. On the other hand, nobody compels a member to become an AC to say nothing of a CM. Doesn't higher position implies a bit higher responsibility and a bit lesser freedom as well? Of course, in voluntary community people do what they want (within the limits of the rules, though) but if one doesn't want to use his extra rights, why bother gaining them?

sharptoothed sharptoothed October 21, 2013 October 21, 2013 at 10:33:38 PM UTC link Lînko payîdar

I think we just need a reasonable compromise between corpus needs and computational needs. Regular corpus cleaning and de-duplication is among the essentials, I believe. In any case, it's up to us to not make things worse. As we say, it's clean not where they clean up but where they don't litter. :-)

sharptoothed sharptoothed October 21, 2013 October 21, 2013 at 10:24:58 PM UTC link Lînko payîdar

Indeed, the newly added sentence has more chances to be translated than the older one, and, yes, the new translation maybe better than old. But to re-think the existing version we have to be aware of its existence at least. That is, in overall the corpus search is more effective than adding (potential) duplicates.
Besides, in the majority of cases duplicates are either basic/simple sentences (greetings, for example) or well-known quotations (Bible, proverbs, etc.) and I don't think the benefit surpasses the burden in this situation.

sharptoothed sharptoothed October 21, 2013 October 21, 2013 at 9:54:14 PM UTC link Lînko payîdar

> I think that time someone proved how they can become beneficial to the corpus.

I'd really like to learn his arguments since I don't understand how the waste of storage and CPU time, excessive complexity of graph structure and non-optimal search results not to mention the waste of efforts of members translating duplicates time and time again can be of any benefit to the corpus.

sharptoothed sharptoothed October 21, 2013 October 21, 2013 at 8:29:51 PM UTC link Lînko payîdar

Sorry, I should have added more smileys to my comment. :-)
Joking apart, duplicates are not harmful provided that de-duplication is being performed regularly. Sorry to say, I don't remember when it was done last time.

sharptoothed sharptoothed October 21, 2013 October 21, 2013 at 7:40:05 PM UTC link Lînko payîdar

> ... should I add the same sentence as a new direct translation?

No, you shouldn't since duplicates are not welcome on Tatoeba and you have to avoid adding duplicate sentences tooth and nail. :-) Advanced users and corpus maintainers can link any pair of sentences so if you feel that sentence #12345 can be linked to sentence #67890 - just add an appropriate comment and someone will take care about that pair.

sharptoothed sharptoothed October 18, 2013 October 18, 2013 at 5:51:58 PM UTC link Lînko payîdar

I think you (and me, too) understand it right. :-) Sphinx performs stemming before search (not for every language, though) so the result will include all word forms of the same stem.