What about allowing users to directly link to audio files hosted on free (or not) hosting sites that allow audio streaming (for easier integration)?

We've discovered Rhinospike quite recently actually. But you know, we were in the phase of releasing all these new things, we didn't have time to consider contacting anyone (because we still need to live our lives and stuff ^^). Anyway, we just checked their license, it appears they are distributing their audio under CC-BY, just like we do! So yes, we will be contacting them and see what happens :)

Now, concerning not recording with your laptop's microphone, the key point was not really that you cannot record with your laptop's mic, but that *qualiy* is important. Usually, your laptop's mic will not give the best quality. However, I do not have any experience in sound, I don't know what is the cheapest way to get the best sound. But this is more something that you'll have to discuss with Shtooka.

Now the problem we're facing is a "Fast, cheap, good. Pick two" type of problem. Tatoeba is cheap for sure. If we pick "fast", then we could have lots of audio, not necessarily optimal for beginners, but always better than nothing. If we pick "good", then the audio we get will be more sustainable, in a way (no need to throw it and replace it), but this will exclude people who will not have the patience and determination to aim for quality (like 99% of people).

Despite of this, I decided to pick the "cheap and good". We are not in a hurry, and actually, we NEED time. The whole audio integration process has barely started. We don't really have a good platform to add audio... Right now, it's quite artisanal. You would have you rename your audio files with the id of the sentence and send them to us via email or something, so that we upload them in our server. Although, the good thing is, Shtooka has a good software that will let you record "massively".

Anyway, besides of that, audio is not really the "core" function of Tatoeba. Not that I don't want it, I've ALWAYS wanted it. But Tatoeba itself still needs a lot of improvements in order to reach a broader audience... not just in terms of features but also in terms of performance (that is, making it faster, and making sure it doesn't crash if we suddenly have thousands of visitor a day).

We decided to introduce audio in order to get awareness and mostly feedback (just like you did), so that we can start thinking about how we can adapt Tatoeba to make the audio integration easier. But things won't really be settled before AT LEAST a couple of months ^^

So, any chance of 'trusted user' status? There's a sentence here
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/21085
that needs unlinking from one of the others.

You need to register here, as this is the service we use to manage the translation of tatoeba
https://translations.launchpad..../+translations
and then from there you can translate the interface/ correct mistakes

feel free to ask if you have questions :)

Yes in general it's better to leave alone a sentence if by itself it doesn't have any spelling or grammatical mistake. Never mind if it's a correct translation or not.

=> http://blog.tatoeba.org/2010/02...eba.html#rule5

We will soon introduce a way to "unlink" sentences for problems related to incorrect translations.

Anyway, if you would like to see more "Sie", you have the right to another translation. It's not forbidden to have two German translations for one same English sentence :)

Oh, I saw the discussion just now^^:
As Swift mentions, Wikipedia uses "du" when appealing to its contributors. Facebook also uses du. I juste decided to follow their example as it seems the most common solution to me and as I also prefer "du". But if anyone doesn't like it, let's discuss it :)!

Trang, did you synchronize my latest launchpad translations? The status is "Translation unchanged since last synchronized", however I see many English sentences in the German version that I think having translated?

Es wäre toll, wenn mir andere Muttersprachler helfen könnten, Tatoeba vollständig und besser zu übersetzen :)!
https://translations.launchpad.net/tatoeba
Das, was ich schon übersetzt habe, könnte sicher in vielen Fällen besser gemacht werden. Und einiges habe ich auch gar nicht übersetzt, da mir bisher keine gute Lösung eingefallen ist.

No it's actually a bug. We're aware of this and it will be fixed this weekend (or perhaps sooner). We'll let you know. Sorry for the inconvenience =/

In the meantime, the best way to proceed is, first to click on the sentence in order to view it in the "Browse" page (the page where there are also the comments and the logs displayed). Then adopt the sentence. Then refresh the page. Then edit the sentence.
I know it's quite annoying, but it's the only (temporary) solution.

I think as you've said, we haven't so much Japanase native, in a first time "confirm" them is the best solution, with an interface even in "not perfect" Japanese, we're more likely to attract more Japanese, and I think they will report us if they see any mistakes

Thanks for taking on the task of translating into Japanese by the way ^^

And yes, I agree that it's better to "confirm". We're not going to be very perfectionist on the interface translations, even if it may not look very "serious" from a language website NOT to have correct translations...
But well, for the reason sysko mentioned, it's better than nothing.

Much as I love those indices in the B-lines (I invented them years ago), I think it might be better to go straight to MeCab. There are some tricks you would need to apply, e.g. where MeCab says a particle is "助詞,格助詞" you would leave it with spaces around it, and where it is "助詞,接続助詞" you would attach it to the preceding word.

Those "|1" are an artifact of the days when Paul Blay was maintaining the indices in MSAccess and needed a way of disambiguating some words. They are not carried through to the B lines in WWWJDIC (I didn't know what they were until Trang expained them to me.)

If you are using MeCab, use the IPADIC version.

The B-lines would be necessary if you you were to create links to WWWJDIC, as MeCab breaks up expressions/compound nouns/etc.