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natanael22vs natanael22vs December 17, 2010 December 17, 2010 at 11:57:24 AM UTC link Permalink

fell in love

CK CK December 16, 2010, edited October 30, 2019 December 16, 2010 at 8:42:11 AM UTC, edited October 30, 2019 at 1:24:08 AM UTC link Permalink

[not needed anymore- removed by CK]

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Pharamp Pharamp December 16, 2010 December 16, 2010 at 3:19:00 PM UTC link Permalink

:O what a good thing!
I wanted to do it for Italian long time ago, but I don't know how to do it :/

Can someone tell me how to create such a list or do it for me? ;)

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debian2007 debian2007 December 16, 2010 December 16, 2010 at 11:17:07 PM UTC link Permalink

I tried frequency list. Not only in Italian. But I like more concise pocket dictionaries. The list of 50000 words not yet in Tatoeba (Italian only):

http://similar.uw.hu/taitadict_a.htm

An Italian speaker can decide what are useful ones.
(I posted the German to Hungarian sentence links a week ago, what contains untranslated sentences/words, but I did not get any reply :P) Maybe this one will be more "useful".

Opinions please. >:D (I made a verb conjugator only for filter words, bah).

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Pharamp Pharamp December 16, 2010 December 16, 2010 at 11:48:56 PM UTC link Permalink

Oh thank you Debian, you've been so kind!
I'm going to start working on these words tomorrow.

Good night!!

sysko sysko December 16, 2010 December 16, 2010 at 8:10:42 PM UTC link Permalink

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/W...requency_lists
there you can found some frequency list for a bunch of languages.

Zifre Zifre December 16, 2010 December 16, 2010 at 10:07:01 PM UTC link Permalink

http://corpus.leeds.ac.uk/list.html

In addition to sysko's link, this page has some much larger frequency lists for a few languages that might be easier to programmatically extract.

sysko sysko December 16, 2010 December 16, 2010 at 8:44:18 AM UTC link Permalink

to ease the navigation can you add an anchor to these 3 categories on your page (otherwise we need to scroll again and again :) )
by the way great idea (as ever :p)
I will try to do the same for Chinese and French.

Swift Swift December 16, 2010 December 16, 2010 at 3:14:30 PM UTC link Permalink

Great idea!

Disputulo Disputulo December 16, 2010 December 16, 2010 at 1:57:34 AM UTC link Permalink

Can you add wildcards to the search? It is frustrating to try to find affix translations as used in different sentences.

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CK CK December 16, 2010, edited October 30, 2019 December 16, 2010 at 4:15:42 AM UTC, edited October 30, 2019 at 1:24:17 AM UTC link Permalink

[not needed anymore- removed by CK]

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Disputulo Disputulo December 16, 2010 December 16, 2010 at 4:43:29 AM UTC link Permalink

Yes, it looks like the relevant setting (on the server side) is handled here as I've pasted here (from that link). But it's not a change I can make. That's why I decided to ask you guys to add it.

11.2.19. enable_star

Enables star-syntax (or wildcard syntax) when searching through prefix/infix indexes. Optional, default is is 0 (do not use wildcard syntax), for compatibility with 0.9.7. Known values are 0 and 1.

This feature enables "star-syntax", or wildcard syntax, when searching through indexes which were created with prefix or infix indexing enabled. It only affects searching; so it can be changed without reindexing by simply restarting searchd.

The default value is 0, that means to disable star-syntax and treat all keywords as prefixes or infixes respectively, depending on indexing-time min_prefix_len and min_infix_len settings. The value of 1 means that star ('*') can be used at the start and/or the end of the keyword. The star will match zero or more characters.

For example, assume that the index was built with infixes and that enable_star is 1. Searching should work as follows:

"abcdef" query will match only those documents that contain the exact "abcdef" word in them.
"abc*" query will match those documents that contain any words starting with "abc" (including the documents which contain the exact "abc" word only);
"*cde*" query will match those documents that contain any words which have "cde" characters in any part of the word (including the documents which contain the exact "cde" word only).
"*def" query will match those documents that contain any words ending with "def" (including the documents that contain the exact "def" word only).

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sysko sysko December 16, 2010 December 16, 2010 at 7:21:46 AM UTC link Permalink

Yep I know about this, but unfortunately the server is already used to the maximun of its capacity (the current load average is 1.36 1.60 1.84) so we can't enable this option without degrading the overall performance, but for sure we will activate it as soon as we have the new version.

mahdiye mahdiye December 15, 2010 December 15, 2010 at 12:26:14 PM UTC link Permalink

why font of persian is changed?

whosnick whosnick December 15, 2010 December 15, 2010 at 6:54:24 AM UTC link Permalink

Bei der Suche ist der Satz: "HINWEIS: Sätze, die eine direkte Übersetzung haben, werden angezeigt. " falsch. Müsste lauten: "HINWEIS: Sätze, die eine INdirekte Übersetzung haben, werden angezeigt. "

raymondjohn raymondjohn December 15, 2010 December 15, 2010 at 5:12:24 AM UTC link Permalink

all raymond from shenzhen china come here,how are you.

trinhnga trinhnga December 15, 2010 December 15, 2010 at 4:51:05 AM UTC link Permalink

Krom la vjetnama kiu estas mia denaska lingvo, mi parolas Esperanton.

AmberShadow AmberShadow December 15, 2010 December 15, 2010 at 1:55:55 AM UTC link Permalink

I made a video tutorial for Shtooka. I'll probably redo it later for 1080p full HD :)
But for now, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcJoLBjUOaY

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TRANG TRANG December 15, 2010 December 15, 2010 at 2:49:02 AM UTC link Permalink

AWESOME!!! THANK YOOOUUUU!!!

It's pretty good ^^ I'll add the link to your tutorial in the FAQ, if you're okay with that.

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AmberShadow AmberShadow December 15, 2010 December 15, 2010 at 3:56:21 AM UTC link Permalink

No problem, think of it as my apology for not getting the Lojban audio done yet :)
And as I said, I'll probably redo it in a higher resolution, and with more zooming.
So go ahead and add it. But be prepared to switch it out when the newer version comes out! ^___^

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Zifre Zifre December 15, 2010 December 15, 2010 at 1:39:52 PM UTC link Permalink

You're doing audio for Lojban? Cool. I can't wait to have some of my sentences recorded. :-)

You might want to read the comments on the sentences before recording them, because some of them are somewhat controversial or may contain errors. I'm not really sure about several of my sentences. Later I might make a list of all the ones I think are correct, and of all the ones that might not be.

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AmberShadow AmberShadow December 15, 2010 December 15, 2010 at 9:31:01 PM UTC link Permalink

Hmm, okay, I might do that then.
Or I might justs do the list and if people need me to re-record something because the sentence got altered, then I can do that.

Thanks for the tip though :)

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Zifre Zifre December 15, 2010 December 15, 2010 at 11:35:07 PM UTC link Permalink

I created two lists:

http://tatoeba.org/spa/sentences_lists/show/294 has sentences that I believe to be correct.

http://tatoeba.org/spa/sentences_lists/show/295 has sentences that I know are incorrect or about which I have doubts.

I have only had time to go through some of my sentences. Later I will finish mine and go through the sentences written by others. If you want to start recording, you can start with the ones in this list and any of my other sentences that look simple and reliable. (The things that I am most likely to get wrong are complex tenses and complex negation logic). Also, tijlan's sentences are very good and you can use those. Just make sure to read the comments. Any weird looking sentences should be run through jbofi'e to see if they parse. If not, don't record them. (In particular, a number of arihato's sentences don't parse.)

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AmberShadow AmberShadow December 16, 2010 December 16, 2010 at 12:25:40 AM UTC link Permalink

Hmm. Well, I might go through those /after/ I record. Because I already have an official list with the sentence number and everything nicely set up. But I can go through afterwards and let the officials know which sentences not to add because they're invalid.

Swift Swift December 14, 2010 December 14, 2010 at 1:43:14 PM UTC link Permalink

** Tag cleanup I **

Now that we've semi-hardened the set of tags that we have available, it's time to start sifting through these and get some order in place. As a first step, I've been going through the quotes. Mainly because they're easy to identify and constitute around a fifth of the tags. Also because there are a lot of duplicate tags that will allow us to substantially cut down the number of tags.

In the first batch, I've sent Trang a list of tags that need translating or standardising (with the "by " and "from " prefixes discussed earlier here on the wall and have already become a de facto standard). Non-English tags have furthermore been translated or transcribed into English/ASCII.

To pre-empt natural concerns: Yes, this is only temporary. No, none of the original tag names are lost. I'm keeping track of these. Once we get a system in place to handle the translations, we'll reinstate them. Those interested in translating tags can contact me via a private message or email.

Please refer to:
http://martin.swift.is/tatoeba/tags-cleanup.html
for a list of tags that are being renamed.

The next step is to merge duplicate quote tags. After that, I plan to continue to organise the tags at
http://martin.swift.is/tatoeba/tags.html
and try to figure out which tags are particularly useful, which ones useless. CK has also done considerable work on tags (beside the mountain of work he's contributed to Tatoeba on various other fronts) and those interested should have a look at his work at:
http://a4esl.com/temporary/tatoeba/

Thoughts and comments on this batch and other issues related to tags are welcome, either in this thread, a new one or private message -- whichever best fits the topic.

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aandrusiak aandrusiak December 15, 2010 December 15, 2010 at 1:09:22 AM UTC link Permalink

About my 'dual' tag. I think it's useful, because it marks sentences where subject is used in the dual number. Although it's not a widespread feature of world's languages, there are still certain languages which use it. I use it for Old Estern Slavic, and you know better than me that it is used in Icelandic. It is also mandatory in the standard Arabic and in Slovene. So I think we should keep this tag.

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Swift Swift December 15, 2010 December 15, 2010 at 2:08:16 AM UTC link Permalink

Thanks for that clarification. I've added annotation to the tag in my list and moved it to the "Grammatical aspect, mood and tense (and number)" section.

PS. For those curious, I'd placed the 'dual' tag under the ??? section on that page. Near the bottom are a bunch of things I haven't sorted out for one reason or another.

PPS. For the super-curious, the dual number is actually very rare in Icelandic. It was in use for first and second person personal pronouns but not any more. The only real remnants are in the distinction between which of two and which of many (hvor and hver). A very useful distinction, that.

boracasli boracasli December 13, 2010 December 13, 2010 at 8:58:13 PM UTC link Permalink

please delete the account "seegii"

because he/she/it behaves like a robot
and adding sentences that not compatible with Tatoeba standards

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Swift Swift December 13, 2010 December 13, 2010 at 9:56:23 PM UTC link Permalink

I've sent the user a message asking them to respond to the comments raised on the sentences. If nothing happens, we can safely delete these soon.