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slomox slomox July 25, 2011 July 25, 2011 at 3:39:27 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Older sentences have exact dates like "Nov 8th 2009, 13:38" as time while recent sentences are dated like "4 days ago". Would be useful, if they had exact absolute dates too (at least additionally to the relative dates) because that would make it easier to tell which sentence is the original sentence and which is the translation. That's often not possible if both sentences have "4 days ago" or a similar identical time designation.

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alexmarcelo alexmarcelo July 25, 2011 July 25, 2011 at 6:06:58 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I agree. It would be useful for us to know which is the original sentence (maybe a different color or a sign in it?). And also a resource to list all our tags, so that we can delete those that have already been corrected (something like "my tags" in my profile).

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sysko sysko July 25, 2011 July 25, 2011 at 6:21:14 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I'm wondering in which cases you think it will be useful (I'm not saying it would not be useful, but I don't see clearly)

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alexmarcelo alexmarcelo July 25, 2011 July 25, 2011 at 7:01:59 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Well... First, about translations. Knowing which sentence is the original one, we would avoid a lot of discussions such as "Ohh, the English says A and the Spanish says B!". And I also think it would be pleasing for the owner to have his sentence underlined, since he added it...

What do you think about listing the tags? It would be even more important. Anyway, it's just a suggestion.

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sysko sysko July 25, 2011 July 25, 2011 at 8:01:07 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

in the first case, that's the reason we have "unlink" :)
For the second argument, why not.

About listing tags, hmm it mainly makes sense with the @something tag, which i need to extract from normal tags in the new version, but yep it will definitely be interesting to be able to follow this.

hayastan hayastan July 27, 2011 July 27, 2011 at 12:39:11 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I agree with your suggestions, sounds really interesting and I think it would be very beneficial for all of us.

MUIRIEL MUIRIEL July 26, 2011 July 26, 2011 at 12:24:31 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

when someone added a wrong translation and there are no other translations yet, then it makes more sense to correct the translation than to unlink the two sentences. the best solution would be to write a comment on the sentence of the contributor who made the wrong translation, but if both sentences are "4 days ago", you can't know who made the error...

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Nero Nero July 26, 2011 July 26, 2011 at 8:00:34 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Whichever sentence has a lower number came first.

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MUIRIEL MUIRIEL July 26, 2011 July 26, 2011 at 8:04:29 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

so true. thank you, that was too easy for me ^^.

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Nero Nero July 26, 2011 July 26, 2011 at 8:11:06 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

It's usually the obvious that eludes us. :P

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MUIRIEL MUIRIEL July 26, 2011 July 26, 2011 at 8:19:07 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

sometimes it's just Nero.

slomox slomox July 27, 2011 July 27, 2011 at 10:55:39 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Kinda makes sense ^^

MUIRIEL MUIRIEL July 27, 2011 July 27, 2011 at 11:22:42 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Just a general info as some of them who read this thread may not know it: for sentences with "date unknown" the number says NOTHING about when they were added.

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Nero Nero July 27, 2011 July 27, 2011 at 6:37:50 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Well those sentences are mostly from the Tanaka Corpus but I have seen exceptions multiple times.

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MUIRIEL MUIRIEL July 27, 2011 July 27, 2011 at 6:55:07 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

yeah, some of those exceptions are from me ;).
The sentences with "date unknown" are simply all the sentences which were already in a previous version from tatoeba that had no time stamps and no 'owners' of sentences.