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Sentence #1221417

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 GrizaLeono GrizaLeono June 13, 2012 June 13, 2012 at 8:00:15 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

sen..., nek ? Hm! Ne en Esperanto, laŭ mi.
En PIV (sub la kapvorto "nek"):
Rim. Oni ne uzas nek post pozitiva unua membro de frazo: «li oscedas nek eĉ fumas» estas korektenda al: «li oscedas, k eĉ ne fumas».
Kvankam la signifo de "homo sen talentoj" sonas negative, ĝi tamen estas gramatike pozitiva.

 al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der June 13, 2012 June 13, 2012 at 8:15:40 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Temas pri "homo nek tre kuraĝa, nek tre inteligenta"
kontraste al "homo tre kuraĝa kaj tre inteligenta" kaj "homo tre kuraĝa, sed ne tre inteligenta" aŭ inverse. "sen specialaj talentoj" estas plia priskribo, kiu lau mia opinio ne influas la alian priskribon.
Tial mi ankoraŭ ne komprenis, kion povas pledi kontraŭ tiu frazo. Mi komprenas, ke PIV malrekomendas al mi diri ekzemple : "Li estas homo malkuraĝa, nek tre inteligenta."
Tion mi ne diris.

GrizaLeono GrizaLeono June 13, 2012 June 13, 2012 at 10:38:17 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Vi pravas. Mi malpravas. Simple. :)

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Kredu al mi: antaŭ vi staras homo sen specialaj talentoj, nek tre kuraĝa kaj nek tre inteligenta.

added by al_ex_an_der, November 6, 2011
➜ #1221418Glaubt mir: vor euch steht ein Mensch ohne besondere Talente, weder sehr mutig, noch sehr intelligent.

linked by al_ex_an_der, November 6, 2011
Kredu al mi: antaŭ vi staras homo sen specialaj talentoj, nek tre kuraĝa, nek tre inteligenta.

edited by al_ex_an_der, November 6, 2011
➜ #1622208Geloof me: voor jullie staat eens mens zonder bijzondere talenten, noch heel moedig, noch heel intelligent.

linked by PaulP, August 24, 2014