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Sentence #3430211

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Selena777 Selena777 August 15, 2014 August 15, 2014 at 10:35:02 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Is it correct to say "the ice"?

Theocracy Theocracy August 16, 2014, edited March 12, 2018 August 16, 2014 at 6:00:58 AM UTC, edited March 12, 2018 at 8:02:54 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Sure. "The" can be used when talking about anything specific. So it is proper to say things like "the water", or "the ice".

Selena777 Selena777 August 16, 2014 August 16, 2014 at 9:02:29 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Thanks, Theocracy. So, it can be said about a specific piece of ice, not about ice in general?

Theocracy Theocracy August 16, 2014, edited January 27, 2016 August 16, 2014 at 6:55:33 PM UTC, edited January 27, 2016 at 2:24:27 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Yes, you would say "the ice" whenever you were talking about specific ice in a specific place or situation, then of course, in a later utterance "the ice" would imply the before-said particular.

e.g. "The ice in the pond", "The ice in a reaction", "The ice in the freezer".

Selena777 Selena777 August 16, 2014 August 16, 2014 at 6:58:06 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I see, thanks.

CK CK August 19, 2014, edited August 19, 2014 August 19, 2014 at 5:32:07 AM UTC, edited August 19, 2014 at 5:35:30 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

The reason this sounds strange is that if you say "the ice", it means specific ice, so the implication is that some ice is not cold. That's why this sentence feels like an English mistake.

However, as a general statement without "the", "ice is cold" would be used the same way you might say "fire is hot."

Selena777 Selena777 August 19, 2014 August 19, 2014 at 8:32:20 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I see, thanks. But that kind of weirdness is not related to English or any other language. It's rather a logical mistake, than a language mistake in my opinion.

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #1914520Ĉu la glacio estas malvarma?.

Is the ice cold?

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