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Sentence #3608238

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Selena777 Selena777 November 5, 2014 November 5, 2014 at 10:06:26 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

@check

PaulP PaulP November 5, 2014 November 5, 2014 at 12:45:14 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

"imitado de laboro". Cetere en ordo.

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der November 5, 2014, edited November 5, 2014 November 5, 2014 at 1:55:23 PM UTC, edited November 5, 2014 at 2:02:03 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Mi komentis la rusan frazo:
> симуляция работы?
Кто имитирует работу, то действительно работает, это не так?
( #3608005 )

La problemo: Kiu imitas laboron, tiu laboras tiel same, kiel alia persono laboras.
Проблема: кто имитирует работу, работает таким же образом, как другой человек.
Sed ĉu tio estas la ideo de la frazo?
Aŭ ĉu la plej malfacila laboro estas simulado / ŝajnigo de laboro?

PS.: Maybe in Russian "симуляция" and "имитация" are synonyms (?), but in Esperanto that's not the case.

Selena777 Selena777 November 5, 2014 November 5, 2014 at 4:22:13 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

@PaulP
Dankon!

@Alexander
There is a saying "имитация бурной деятельности", that means active, but not wearisome and absolutely useless activity, that have a single purpose: to mislead someone that you are engaged in a very important work.
So, I understand this sentence as "it's very difficult to do something useless to convince people that you are doing something useful".

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der November 6, 2014 November 6, 2014 at 3:23:21 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

That's why my sugestion: simulado de laboro

PaulP PaulP November 6, 2014 November 6, 2014 at 10:02:40 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Jes, mi samopinias. "Simulado" estas pli bona verbo tie ĉi.

soweli_Elepanto soweli_Elepanto November 6, 2014 November 6, 2014 at 11:21:30 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Ankaŭ "ŝajnigado" taŭgas tie ĉi.
Vorto "imitado" estas falsa amiko de tradukanto, ĉar (EPO) "imitado" tute ne egalas al (RUS) "имитация".

PaulP PaulP November 6, 2014 November 6, 2014 at 12:40:16 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Jes, ankaŭ "ŝajnigado". Vidu ekzemple tie, kun sama signifo: http://www.retbutiko.net/eo/ero/sxaj

Selena777 Selena777 November 6, 2014 November 6, 2014 at 3:02:43 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Dankon! Mi aldonis ambaŭ frazojn.

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #3608005Самая трудная работа - это имитация работы..

La plej malfacila laboro estas imitado da laboro.

added by Selena777, November 5, 2014

La plej malfacila laboro estas imitado de laboro.

edited by Selena777, November 5, 2014

La plej malfacila laboro estas simulado de laboro.

edited by Selena777, November 6, 2014