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Sentence #3616270

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 brauchinet brauchinet November 9, 2014 November 9, 2014 at 10:54:28 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Niemandem

mrtaistoi mrtaistoi November 9, 2014, edited November 9, 2014 November 9, 2014 at 1:14:53 PM UTC, edited November 9, 2014 at 1:15:43 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

ja nee. nicht so schnell.
"Speziell zur Bezeichung von Personen dienen niemand und jemand. Bis auf den Gen (jemandes, niemandes) kann auch hier für alle Kasus dieselbe Form verwendet werden."
Peter Eisenberg (1999): Grundriß der deutschen Grammatik. Der Satz. S. 182.

brauchinet brauchinet November 9, 2014, edited November 9, 2014 November 9, 2014 at 1:26:49 PM UTC, edited November 9, 2014 at 1:38:49 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Stimmt, das steht auch so im Grammatik-Duden:
Die Pronomen jemand und niemand schwanken zwischen substantivischer Flexion (Akkusativ und Dativ endungslos) und adjektivischer Flexion (Akkusativ auf -en und Dativ auf -em)

Trotzdem kommt es mir in diesem Satz nicht richtig vor, wahrscheinlich auch deshalb, weil man es zunächst für das Subjekt hält und dann der ganze Satz vermurkst ist.
Mal sehen, was Pfirsichbäumchen macht.

Nachtrag: Eigentlich halte ich "Ich sehe jemand/niemand." und "Ich helfe niemand." nicht für richtig. Sagt (oder besser: schreibt) das wirklich jemand so?

Pfirsichbaeumchen Pfirsichbaeumchen November 25, 2014, edited November 25, 2014 November 25, 2014 at 10:30:43 AM UTC, edited November 25, 2014 at 10:30:53 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Die nicht deklinierten Formen gelten auch als richtig. Heutzutage sind sie jedoch weitgehend unüblich. Ich schlage auch „niemandem“ vor.

Pfirsichbaeumchen Pfirsichbaeumchen December 26, 2014 December 26, 2014 at 9:10:09 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Ändere gemäß dem Vorschlag.

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #3386612Выжить не удалось никому..

Niemand gelang es zu überleben.

added by mrtaistoi, November 9, 2014
➜ #3386612Выжить не удалось никому.

linked by mrtaistoi, November 9, 2014
Niemandem gelang es zu überleben.

edited by Pfirsichbaeumchen, December 26, 2014