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Sentence #540242

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FeuDRenais FeuDRenais September 30, 2010 September 30, 2010 at 7:54:48 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Paul Blay's Grammar + No Grammar = This

Demetrius Demetrius October 1, 2010 October 1, 2010 at 8:45:45 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I can't find any sentences with “swim [a/the] river” in Tatoeba’s database. Can you show me them?

By the way, http://tatoeba.org/sentences/show/540756 :)

Demetrius Demetrius October 1, 2010 October 1, 2010 at 8:55:07 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

> Try "swim in the river" or "swim across the river"
No, these abound. :)

All the jokes follow the same pattern (subject and object swapped, no articles), so “In Soviet Russia, river swims in you (you in?)” is expected. But it’s different.

So I think FeuDRenais means that a river can be a direct object. I guess it’s what he called “Paul Blay’s grammar”.

(And it is certainly not a put on a Russian grammar, because we say ‘плавать в реке’/‘swim in [the] river’ in Russian.)

(If FeuDRenais meant to make a Runglish sentence and calque the Russian verb ‘переплыть реку’, he would have written ‘river reswims you’ or sth like this.)

Demetrius Demetrius October 1, 2010 October 1, 2010 at 9:26:09 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

(*not a pun on Russian grammar)

FeuDRenais FeuDRenais October 1, 2010 October 1, 2010 at 9:52:53 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Paul made a sentence that went something like "This river is dangerous to swim in July", and there was a small debate about it, because both I and minshirui thought you needed one more "in", but Paul insisted that it was fine to say "swim a river". This joke is a reference to that (sorry for the confusion).

@Demetrius: Thankfully, I haven't repeated it 2^8 times yet. Also, some jokes are classic. And also, you are probably biased against this joke because it makes fun of the way many Russians use English grammar (!) :-)

Demetrius Demetrius October 1, 2010 October 1, 2010 at 10:00:55 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

> Also, some jokes are classic. And also, you are probably biased
> against this joke because it makes fun of the way many Russians
> use English grammar (!) :-)
What do you want to say‽ Russian-speakings talk on English very well! ^^ Everyone knows that Russian (and specially Belarusian) education's systems are the best in light!

But in any happening, classic jokes must be in one exemplar. ;) But not need to have very many they's variants.

> Thankfully, I haven't repeated it 2^8 times yet'
I talked “256” because it a round number.

FeuDRenais FeuDRenais October 1, 2010 October 1, 2010 at 10:03:14 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Dear Demetrius: Tatoeba is not about jokes.

Demetrius Demetrius October 1, 2010 October 1, 2010 at 10:03:29 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

(Hmmm. «But not need to have very many they's variants» is unlikely to be said by a Russian. «But to us not need very many they’s variants» is better.)

FeuDRenais FeuDRenais October 1, 2010 October 1, 2010 at 10:06:06 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

By the way, what is this symbol: ‽ ?

Demetrius Demetrius October 1, 2010 October 1, 2010 at 10:06:08 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

> Dear Demetrius: Tatoeba is not about jokes.
Dear FeũDRenais,
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/540854

Demetrius Demetrius October 1, 2010 October 1, 2010 at 10:07:05 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

> By the way, what is this symbol: ‽ ?
It is intended to be an interrobang. It should be ? and ! combined.

It’s not really used in any language, but I like it and use it sometimes. ^^ Not on Tatoeba, though.

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In Soviet Russia, river swims you!

added by FeuDRenais, September 30, 2010