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Sentence #617630

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 Hans07 Hans07 October 22, 2011 October 22, 2011 at 11:49:42 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

panon

rado rado October 22, 2011 October 22, 2011 at 3:01:24 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

El NPIV : ŝmiri buteron sur la pano. (Zamenhof)

Hans07 Hans07 October 23, 2011 October 23, 2011 at 6:40:48 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Stranga. NPIV komencas per "Froti sur ion ..."
Mi sentas, oni ŝmiras ion ien. Kien mi ŝmiras la buteron? Sur la panon.
Ŝmiri sur la pano similas la frazon: Mi ŝmiras sur la eskalo.
Imagu: Mi ŝmiras buteron, sidante sur pano. :-))

Konkludo: se mi pravas, NPIV kaj Z eraris. Tiaj aferoj ja jam okazis.
Se mi havos la tempon, mi povas sendi la demandon al la Yahoo-grupo PIV
au al akademiano.

rado rado October 23, 2011 October 23, 2011 at 11:31:36 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Eble oni ne metis la -n ĉar oni subkomprenas, ke “oni metas la buteron sur la panon kaj“ oni ŝmiras ĝin, kie ĝi jam estis “sur la pano“, tiel, kiel:
Skribi sur papero.
Pasi sur la placo. (Zamenhof)
Promenante sur la strato, mi falis. (Zamenhof)
Lia terurita rigardo vagis sur la muro. (K. Bein)

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #617624Ha spalmato del burro sul pane..

Li ŝmiris buteron sur la pano.

added by rado, November 13, 2010
➜ #617624Ha spalmato del burro sul pane.

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