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Sentence #6488236

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soweli_Elepanto soweli_Elepanto December 2, 2017 December 2, 2017 at 12:39:48 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

-> jan ike li kama jo e ilo toki ona. [?]

soweli_Elepanto soweli_Elepanto December 2, 2017, edited December 2, 2017 December 2, 2017 at 3:42:34 PM UTC, edited December 2, 2017 at 3:43:46 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Oni laŭeble evitu pasivon en Tokipono, ĉar ĝi ofte estas tre malfacile esprimebla kaj eĉ pli malfacile komprenebla.

Rilate al poŝtelefono, mi konsentus uzi pli simplan esprimon "ilo toki".

soweli_Elepanto soweli_Elepanto December 4, 2017 December 4, 2017 at 10:07:42 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Jes, telefono ne povas ŝteli. Sed "ilo toki ona li kama jo ike" ja signifas "Lia telefono ŝtelis". Jes, Tokipono ne ebligas nin uzi pasivon. Do mi konsilus jenan varianton:

jan li kama jo ike e ilo toki ona. = Oni ŝtelis lian telefonon.

ni li pona ala pona tawa sina?

soweli_Elepanto soweli_Elepanto December 5, 2017 December 5, 2017 at 11:37:49 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

jan li kama jo ike e ilo toki ona. - pona!

ilo toki ona li kama jo ike. - ni li nasa. taso ni li pona kin a!
Vi pravas, "jo" ja povas signifi ankaŭ "aparteni" kaj eĉ "propraĵo".

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #1490068Ihm wurde das Mobiltelefon gestohlen..

ilo toki luka ona li kama jo ike.

added by list, November 29, 2017

linked by list, November 29, 2017

ilo toki ona li kama jo ike.

edited by list, December 4, 2017

jan li kama jo ike e ilo toki ona.

edited by list, December 7, 2017

linked by carlosalberto, March 31, 2023

linked by carlosalberto, April 8, 2023