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Sentence #6538763

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 PaulP PaulP December 5, 2017 December 5, 2017 at 5:42:39 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

ought to = devus ?

shekitten shekitten December 5, 2017 December 5, 2017 at 11:38:02 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Laŭ PMEG pri devus:

"Plej ofte ili [devus, povus, kaj volus] esprimas realan devon, povon aŭ volon rilate al ago, kiun oni tamen ne faris, faras aŭ faros"

Minimume, devus implicas ke la pardono ne estas atendata. Sed "ought to" ne implicas tion. Ĝi signifas simple ke la subjekto nek faris nek faras ion sed faru ĝin. Mi pridubis ĉu uzi la verbon "devi" aŭ uzi la imperativon, sed decidis ke "devas" estas valida traduko, kvankam ankaŭ la imperativo estus. Precipe ĉar pardono estas ofte konsiderata kiel devo.

PaulP PaulP December 5, 2017 December 5, 2017 at 11:42:18 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Bone. Mi ne estas denaska parolanto de la angla. Sendube mi missentis la signifon de „ought to”. Dankon pro la klarigo!

shekitten shekitten December 5, 2017 December 5, 2017 at 12:02:00 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Nedankinde. Kaj eble mi malpravas, sed almenaŭ en mia dialekto "ought to" estas admono ĉi-kuntekste.

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #5831982I think you ought to forgive us..

Mi opinias, ke vi devas pardoni nin.

added by shekitten, December 4, 2017
➜ #5831982I think you ought to forgive us.

linked by shekitten, December 4, 2017
➜ #6539221Ich meine, dass du uns vergeben kannst.

linked by Esperantostern, December 5, 2017
➜ #6539498Ich finde, ihr solltet uns verzeihen.

linked by PaulP, December 5, 2017
➜ #6539497Ich finde, du solltest uns verzeihen.

linked by PaulP, December 5, 2017
➜ #6539221Ich meine, dass du uns vergeben kannst.

unlinked by PaulP, December 5, 2017