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Sentence #10992968

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Tepan Tepan July 16, 2022 July 16, 2022 at 5:42:21 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

How does "lape monsuta" work, please? I can't read it as "to faint".

GiggyMantis GiggyMantis July 16, 2022 July 16, 2022 at 6:10:03 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

"I fear-slept" = "I fainted".

If that is too much of a stretch maybe add "tan" so it is "I slept out of fear"

Tepan Tepan July 16, 2022 July 16, 2022 at 6:37:58 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Thanks for the explanation. I think it's a stretch. "mi kama lape tan pilin akesi" is what I would expect now, given that you assume, that one faints because of fear. To me, one can easily faint because of other reasons, and fear wasn't even the first one that comes to my mind.

GiggyMantis GiggyMantis July 16, 2022 July 16, 2022 at 6:39:45 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Are you using "pilin akesi" to mean feeling fear? I think I should rework or remove this translation entirely, and try to figure out a way to express fainting that doesn't imply fear.

Tepan Tepan July 16, 2022 July 16, 2022 at 6:44:55 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Yes, I do. But I don't see "pilin akesi" in Ku (but "akesi" is in Ku for "fear"). I should have suggested "mi kama lape tan akesi".

GiggyMantis GiggyMantis July 16, 2022 July 16, 2022 at 6:52:18 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I have only come up with two other ways to express faint without assuming fear, and I don't really like either since they have more common alternate meanings.
"lape ike" - bad sleep, could also mean just a bad sleep
"lape lili" - short sleep, could also just mean nap.

Tepan Tepan July 16, 2022 July 16, 2022 at 6:57:26 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

What does the ma pona community say?

GiggyMantis GiggyMantis July 16, 2022 July 16, 2022 at 7:06:03 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I gtg but I will ask as soon as I can

GiggyMantis GiggyMantis July 16, 2022 July 16, 2022 at 7:53:47 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Okay I asked: "wawa mi li weka." is "I fainted"
They gave a few other ones but this one makes the most sense to me

Tepan Tepan July 16, 2022 July 16, 2022 at 9:45:09 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

When I will have a better idea, I will let you know.

Tepan Tepan September 13, 2022 September 13, 2022 at 12:39:27 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

-> mi kama lape wawa lon tenpo lili (tan weka wawa).

GiggyMantis GiggyMantis September 13, 2022 September 13, 2022 at 12:43:37 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

okay, that makes sense.

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #20364I fainted..

mi lape monsuta.

added by GiggyMantis, July 15, 2022

license chosen by GiggyMantis, July 15, 2022

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wawa mi li weka.

edited by GiggyMantis, July 16, 2022

mi kama lape wawa lon tenpo lili

edited by GiggyMantis, September 13, 2022

mi kama lape wawa lon tenpo lili.

edited by GiggyMantis, September 13, 2022