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AdilsonSantana AdilsonSantana June 3, 2012 June 3, 2012 at 9:33:33 AM UTC link Permalink

Saluton!

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jakov jakov June 3, 2012 June 3, 2012 at 9:40:11 AM UTC link Permalink

Saluton! Estu kore bonvana ĉe Tatoeba!

Se vi havas iujn demandojn, ne hezitu min demandi aŭ demandi ĉi tie sur la muro.

Mi rekomendas al vi legi [kiel iĝi bona kontribuanto](https://docs.google.com/documen...Y&hl=en&pli=1)

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der June 3, 2012 June 3, 2012 at 9:53:50 AM UTC link Permalink

Bonan matenon, Adilson! Mi ĝojas pri viaj kontribuoj.

sacredceltic sacredceltic June 3, 2012 June 3, 2012 at 3:03:58 PM UTC link Permalink

Bienvenue parmi nous !

AdilsonSantana AdilsonSantana June 3, 2012 June 3, 2012 at 8:28:47 PM UTC link Permalink

Dankon! ^^

sacredceltic sacredceltic June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 7:18:15 PM UTC link Permalink

Quelqu'un peut-il supprimer les 50800+ messages d'insultes que boracasli, alias mistakecorrecter, alias de... a inséré dans ma boîte.
Ça me permettrait de pouvoir accéder à mes vrais messages, merci !

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sysko sysko June 3, 2012 June 3, 2012 at 3:41:12 PM UTC link Permalink

c'est nettoyé

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marcelostockle marcelostockle June 3, 2012 June 3, 2012 at 3:50:48 PM UTC link Permalink

muchas gracias

sacredceltic sacredceltic June 3, 2012 June 3, 2012 at 6:59:22 PM UTC link Permalink

Un tout grand merci.

Nero Nero June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 7:55:39 PM UTC link Permalink

Moi aussi.

sysko sysko June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 12:07:12 PM UTC link Permalink

=== Concerning the two last days downtime and related bugs ===

Actually it was the result of two factors, me being in business trip and the server to had crashed (due mainly to a nasty bug in the server kernel)

It should not happen in the future, sorry for the unconvenience.

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sysko sysko June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 12:12:03 PM UTC link Permalink

On a side (and those who follow the discussion on our IRC channel may have already heard me talking about this) , in addition to the new version, I'm also thinking on how to put tatoeba in a Peer to Peer way in order to make it less dependant of one central website and of one administrator , in order to make the service resistant to the crash of one machine or the indisponibility of one guy.

wallebot wallebot June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 11:43:41 PM UTC link Permalink

Mercy beacoup sysko.

ferchothor ferchothor June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 11:04:28 PM UTC link Permalink

bonjour à tous
saluton
hallo
hello

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sacredceltic sacredceltic June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 11:06:23 PM UTC link Permalink

Bienvenue ! Merci d'indiquer qui vous êtes dans votre profil...

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ferchothor ferchothor June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 11:30:45 PM UTC link Permalink

merci, Vous êtes très aimable!!! wow
vous connaissez beaucoup des langues!!!
c'est incroyable!!!

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sacredceltic sacredceltic June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 11:47:23 PM UTC link Permalink

Pas tant que ça...il y a quelques champions, ici...

marcelostockle marcelostockle May 31, 2012 May 31, 2012 at 3:21:57 PM UTC link Permalink

has any Italian or Russian contributor thought of adding audio sentences?
It'd be great to have a few.
Same for Esperanto users!

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Shadd Shadd June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 1:54:23 PM UTC link Permalink

Perhaps I will, in the future.

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Shadd Shadd June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 10:56:27 PM UTC link Permalink

On a side note, I do agree with al_ex_an_der that the procedure is quite abstruse and legthy. Having time and perhaps people to spend programming, it would be best to have the system strictly integrated on the website, so one could directly upload an audio file to be checked by a native (or another knowledgeable contributor) for accuracy and file quality without further steps to take.

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sacredceltic sacredceltic June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 11:05:28 PM UTC link Permalink

it would be spammed non-stop...

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marcelostockle marcelostockle June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 11:27:07 PM UTC link Permalink

most surely

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Shadd Shadd June 2, 2012 June 2, 2012 at 12:46:17 AM UTC link Permalink

If I were a spammer I would rather post lots of random sentences rather than bother uploading unique audio files (hashes can be used to check the files). Plus, a captcha or membership among trusted contributors could be required.
It won't be spammed more than sentence entries are, yet we aren't requiring those to be sent by email.

jakov jakov June 2, 2012 June 2, 2012 at 7:14:43 AM UTC link Permalink

I agree, that it would be spammed, *if* it were open to everybody instantly.

However, if we find the time for programming it, it would indeed be awesome to have in-page audio recording for “audio contributors”, i.e. for those who have passed the audio recording device quality test.

Nevertheless, I think that until then, the bigger hurdle is to go and buy a microphone, which I think is necessary for good quality recordings: Those, who don’t need it for private puropses could see it as a donation to Tatoeba.

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der May 31, 2012 May 31, 2012 at 3:44:24 PM UTC link Permalink

I would like to do so, if the procedure were less complicated.

Demetrius Demetrius June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 3:30:43 PM UTC link Permalink

I might, but I'm too lazy to buy a microphone.

teskmon teskmon May 31, 2012 May 31, 2012 at 3:47:49 PM UTC link Permalink

A few days ago there were about 171500 English sentences but today there are only 48325 sentences. What's the reason for that?

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sysko sysko June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 12:09:54 PM UTC link Permalink

bug in the database due to a crash, actually it was only the number displayed which was wrong, the sentences are still all here :) and now it should be fixed.

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teskmon teskmon June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 12:14:56 PM UTC link Permalink

Ok, great!

Former member Former member May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 7:54:27 PM UTC link Permalink

mistakecorrecter pwnz sacredceltic's mother

sacredceltic's prostitute mother had sex with a chimp and she gave birth to a homosexual chimp called sacredceltic.

sacredceltic's mother is a chimp, too.

Sacredceltic's mother belongs to me.
I 0wn3d her.
I pwn3d her.
Fuk ya Sacredceltic

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jakov jakov May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:44:35 PM UTC link Permalink

BTW, could you tell me what software you used last time to spam my inbox. I would really like to know how to send messages through the tatoeba messaging system as there are some really usefull features that could be implemented that way.

Here you are yet another way you could recover your trust.

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Demetrius Demetrius June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 3:33:38 PM UTC link Permalink

BTW it's very easy to send automated messages with existing software like wget.

Just use Firebug to get your credentials in a cookie and the fields that should be set, and use wget (or the software you use). I've used this to mass-tag proverbs some time ago.

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jakov jakov June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 4:03:54 PM UTC link Permalink

I would need a way to do this in javascript through a userscript or (as sysko just asked me to help with the webinterface) directly from the website.

How dis you accomPlish the mass tagging? Did you create a list and add the tag to all items in the list?

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Demetrius Demetrius June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 4:13:42 PM UTC link Permalink

I guess this is doable through userscript, but I'm not sure...


All you have to do is to send a POST request to http://tatoeba.org/eng/private_messages/send with the following fields:
{
"_method": "POST", // (dunno if this is really neccessary, but, to be on the safe side...)
"data[PrivateMessage][content]": text,
"data[PrivateMessage][recpt]": username,
"data[PrivateMessage][title]": message_title
}

BUT you also must send user cookies. I dunno how AJAX handles cookies, maybe they will be sent automatically(?).

> How dis you accomPlish the mass tagging? Did you create a list and add the tag to all items in the list?
Yes, I've created a text file with sentence IDs. It's much faster than opening each page and typing the tag text, though more error-prone.

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jakov jakov June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 4:33:33 PM UTC link Permalink

That s exactly what i ve already tried, but it didnt work. Maybe because of the cookie information that s missing! I ll try to get that cookie info and also send it, thanks for the tip!

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Demetrius Demetrius June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 4:48:35 PM UTC link Permalink

I can't find any info on cookies in AJAX, maybe maybe XMLHttpRequest just doesn't allow using cookies? :(

BTW, for me, the following cookies are sent: '__utma', '__utmz', 'CakeCookie[User]', 'CakeCookie[hash_last_com]', 'CakeCookie[contribute_lang]', 'CAKEPHP', 'CakeCookie[interfaceLanguage]', '__utmb', '__utmc'. I don't know which ones are really neccessary and which ones can be omited.

jakov jakov May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:41:59 PM UTC link Permalink

Are you going to spam my inbox again, if I point out to you, that this is senseless behavior?

Come on, grow up a little and do some stuff that's usefull! I know your going to (try to) reregister after being banned again, so maybe next time you don't misbehave?

There's no sense in adding automatic translations, when you can use google for that. BUT YOU DO KNOW AT LEAST ONE LANGUAGE, SO LIMIT YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE LANGUAGES YOU REALLY KNOW!

This is going to be the very last time that i will try to convince you of useful behaviour (and most certainly waste my time). Keep in mind that all your contributions will be probably deleted, since you cannot be trusted FOR NOW.

IF YOU CHANGE YOUR BEHAVIOUR AND NO ONE NOTICES THAT ITS YOU, YOU GET A TRUSTED CONTRIBUTOR TO TATOEBA.

jakov jakov May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:57:42 PM UTC link Permalink

How old or damaged are you?

Until now we only know that you like popstars. Maybe you should write about yourself in your profile so we can START A THERAPY. This is not meant rude, but it seems true.

What else do you do apart from destroying good things on the web? Have you watched the intro video? Do you even know why we are all doing this here?!?

Nero Nero May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 9:11:12 PM UTC link Permalink

"corrector" is how it is correctly spelt.

Former member Former member May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:54:35 PM UTC link Permalink

mistakecorrecter pwnz sacredceltic's and jakov's mother

sacredceltic's and jakov's prostitute mother had sex with a chimp and she gave birth to homosexual chimps called sacredceltic and jakov.

sacredceltic's and jakov's mother is a chimp, too.

Sacredceltic's and Jakov's mother belongs to me.
I 0wn3d them.
I pwn3d them.
Fuk ya Sacredceltic and Jakov

sacredceltic sacredceltic May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 7:52:45 PM UTC link Permalink

Please read an excerpt of young Turkish kindness

Bonvolu legi ekzemplo de juna turka bonkoro

Veuillez lire un exemple de jeune bienveillance turque

http://tatoeba.org/fre/user/pro...stakecorrecter

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jakov jakov May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:32:18 PM UTC link Permalink

Btw, I think we should delete all accounts that dont have any contributions (e.g. see in the users index[1], those which have randomly looking usernames)!

As there are maybe some, who were interested, but didnt understand the project, we should write them an e-mail that says that they're welcome to register again if they want so (and link to the [help page][2] for further information). The spammers won't care about our message.

[1]: http://tatoeba.org/deu/users/all/page:728
[2]: http://tatoeba.org/deu/help

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jakov jakov May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:34:47 PM UTC link Permalink

And we should employ an official time limit (e.g. a few month) so such profiles will be deleted automatically (or manually, but regularly).

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Shadd Shadd June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 1:56:07 PM UTC link Permalink

+1

sacredceltic sacredceltic May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:48:33 PM UTC link Permalink

Out of the 14000+ accounts on Tatoeba, 8000+ have been created by boracasli, through different scripts...

Nero Nero June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 6:41:45 PM UTC link Permalink

The account "justinbieber" is most probably him.

jakov jakov May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:53:52 PM UTC link Permalink

Our relatives seem to havee a lot in common ;)

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sacredceltic sacredceltic May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 9:13:07 PM UTC link Permalink

Obviously...

When his are just specific to his region...

jakov jakov May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:26:21 PM UTC link Permalink

my next project might be a ban script ;)

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sacredceltic sacredceltic May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:50:14 PM UTC link Permalink

Now you're on his profile as well.
This brat is really freaking. That tells a lot on the violence in his environment...

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sacredceltic sacredceltic May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:54:50 PM UTC link Permalink

The same people who call for rape and murder just deny it without winking an eye a hundred years later...

jakov jakov May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:49:37 PM UTC link Permalink

I thought about the SPAM thing:

I propose that also PMs should be delivered directly, *but* there should be a time-limit and a ceiling for new messages: e.g. a maximum of 10 messages per hour should be deliverd directly, about the rest you will only be notified like "you have 300 new messages" (which then are probably SPAM). I recommend that the values be changeable by the user or better increase with the recent activity (as you expect someones reaction then).