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Btw for the English moderators, there are quite a few sentences here:
http://tatoeba.org/eng/tags/for...rs/@change/eng
And for the moderators or corpus maintainers of other languages, you can get a similar page by changing the three letter language code at the end.
e.g. http://tatoeba.org/fre/tags/for...rs/@change/spa
http://tatoeba.org/fre/tags/for...rs/@change/fra
It's supposed to be part of the CM's job to fix these.
It takes me like 3 minutes to open or send a private message. Am I the only one?
You are not the only one.
As he said — you are not alone. I experience the same thing when I try to send or read a message. It always takes a while, up to a few minutes, during which time Tatoeba is completely frozen. I usually take a book or open a new tab in my browser to do something else while I wait for the process to be completed.
I would like to make a suggestion about the Japanese sentences in the corpus. I find sentences with automatically added furigana not very convenient. Most of them are not correct so, since they don’t fulfill their function, they become useless. Some people usually post comments with the right reading, but wouldn’t it be better that users themselves could modify that furigana sentences?
The fact of not being able to find words just by writing the hiragana is also a problem. Sometimes a Japanese word may be written with several different kanjis, and the only sentences displayed are those containing the same kanji that you wrote.
From my point of view, a good and easy solution would be having furigana sentences deleted and letting users write a related sentence wholly in hiragana, as it was a translation. This way it would become possible to search by pronunciation and not just by kanji. What do you think?
I find this a good idea,
it'd be good to have this implemented
This is planned for the next version, that will use TatoDB instead of MySQL and will be written in C++... But no one knows when that version will be ready, lol. :)
Ich wollte noch einmal nach Meinungen bezüglich naheliegender Übersetzungen von Eigennamen fragen.
Bekanntlich sind die Namen "Tom" und "Mary" als Standardplatzhalter für irgendwelche Namen besonders verbreitet. Während "Tom" sich ohne weiteres in das Klangbild des Deutschen einfügt, ist das bei "Mary" offensichtlich nicht der Fall. Deutsche Entsprechungen wären "Marie" oder "Maria".
Wie denkt Ihr darüber, "Marie" oder "Maria" statt "Mary" zu schreiben?
EPO: Se Tom kaj Maria aperu senŝanĝe en ĉiuj lingvoj, tiam "Maria" estas malbona elekto. Tiukaze oni anstataŭ "Maria" elektu nomon, kiu estas kongrua kun la fonetiko kaj ortografio de laŭeble multaj lingvoj. Por la celo faciligi la aŭtomatan serĉadon de duoblaĵoj tamen sufiĉas, se oni konsentas pri preferataj nomoj sole interne de unuopaj lingvoj.
Mi mem opinias la uzon de "Maria" avantaĝa. Ŝajnas al mi, ke tiu nomo en tre multaj landoj "estas hejme" aŭ almenaŭ ne impresas fremde.
Mi rimarkis, ke pro parta uzo de tradukprogramo Mary estis anstataŭigita per Maria, kio detruis la sencon. erarao. Do jen la korektita teksto:
EPO: Se Tom kaj Mary aperu senŝanĝe en ĉiuj lingvoj, tiam "Mary" estas malbona elekto. Tiukaze oni anstataŭ "Mary" elektu nomon, kiu estas kongrua kun la fonetiko kaj ortografio de laŭeble multaj lingvoj. Por la celo faciligi la aŭtomatan serĉadon de duoblaĵoj tamen sufiĉas, se oni konsentas pri preferataj nomoj sole interne de unuopaj lingvoj.
Mi mem opinias la uzon de "Maria" avantaĝa. Ŝajnas al mi, ke tiu nomo en tre multaj landoj "estas hejme" aŭ almenaŭ ne impresas fremde.
Dadurch, daß der Name Maria (Miryām, Maryam) im Koran, Tanach und Neuen Testament von Bedeutung ist, hat er sicher vertraute, heimisch klingende Formen in zahlreichen Sprachen, die man benutzen könnte: in europäischen und nahöstlichen sowieso; im Japanischen hätte man zum Beispiel Mari und Mariya.
Ich fände es recht gut, hier diese Internationalität walten zu lassen. Ein festes Namenspaar in jeder Sprache sollte die automatische Doppelgängersuche, wie Du sagst, ja weiterhin möglich machen.
"Mariya" war natürlich Quatsch. Das sollte auch "Maria" heißen.
Na sowas, und gerade Mariya hat mir gut gefallen! :)
So? Na, dann sollte ich den Namen vielleicht doch als ernstgemeint stehenlassen! Denn Mariya gibt es ja auch — wenngleich der Name oben nur aufgrund irgendeines seltsamen Tippreflexes stand. (Mariko fände ich als ähnlichen Namen auch ganz hübsch.)
Ja... auch Persika fände ich schön. Aber jetzt bin ich wohl vom Thema abgekommen... :)
Falls Tom und Mary in allen Sprachen unverändert erscheinen sollen, ist "Mary" eine schlechte Wahl. Dann sollte an Stelle von Mary ein Name gewählt werden, der mit der Phonetik und Orthographie möglichst vieler Sprachen kompatibel ist. Zum Zweck der Erleichterung der automatische Dublettensuche ist es allerdings völlig ausreichend, wenn man sich auf bevorzugte Namen lediglich innerhalb der einzelnen Sprachen festlegt.
Ich selbst finde es vorteilhaft "Maria" zu verwenden. Mir scheint das ein Name zu sein, der in sehr vielen Sprachen heimisch ist, oder zumindest nicht fremd erscheint.
@sysko
Peux-tu rendre les noms des nouvelles langues introduites traductibles pour Launchpad, s'il te plaît ? C'est chiant de ne pas les avoir dans l'ordre en français ou en espéranto...
Merci.
Je ne comprends pas pourquoi les noms de langues sont correctement traduites en espéranto et en allemand, tandis que dans Launchpad, je ne trouve pas les noms des dernières langues ajoutées dans la traduction française, pour les traduire, parce que la liste en français n'est pas en ordre...
About tags...
I was wondering if tags which refer to almost the same aspect of sentences are meant to be combined into one tag. If so; who is responsible for that?
There seem to be many equivalent pairs, for instance: job and profession. I believe they should be merged. Is this a right approach for such situations?
Similar tags have been merged before, but this was mostly done by hand, see:
http://tatoeba.org/rus/wall/show_message/4441
http://tatoeba.org/rus/wall/show_message/4488
http://tatoeba.org/rus/wall/show_message/4517
Well semi-automatically, in the way that I didn't change the Tag one by one,
so to answer the first question
Simply report them here, I will use it as my todo list ^^
These are the ones that came to my attention at first glance. Some of them may not be classified as duplication, but I added them anyway for your consideration. If I come across more of them I'll add them later.
>>2nd_Person_Plural/Formal
2nd_Person_Plural_Formal
2nd_Person_Formal_Plural
>>>@needs_native_check
@need_native_check
@needs_native_speaker
>>>tongue twister
English translation of a Japanese tongue twister (maybe "translated tongue twister")
tone twister (is this a typo or is there really something like that?)
>>>idiom
idiome
>>>proverb
proverbe
proverbo
Proverb_(Universal_
saying
Proverbaro_Esperanta
proverb_(in_context_
@proverb
proverbial_phrase
proverb-like
>>>translated_proverb
translated-proverb
foreign_proverb
English_translation_of_a_Japanese_proverb
Indian_proverb
>>>formal
Formal_language
formal_hebrew
formal_sounding
Formal_Hebrew_language
>>>2nd_Person_Informal
2nd_Person_Informal_(Uyghur_
>>>job
profession
i think "proverbaro esperanta" relates to the source of these proverbs; they should be tagged both "proverbaro esperanta" and "proverb".
the same goes for "indian proverb" and "... japanese proverb" (which should be shortened of course); they should get both their tag plus "translated proverb".
In a meta-tag system i would prefer "proverb" to be the most general, having "original" and "translated as sub groups, who on their own have subgroups like the ones mentioned above.
I agree with you on all three points. :))
Hello All
I'm busy these days finishing to handle everything before my holiday vacation
(I've changed home, finish to correct some final exams, write a final end of the year report) which should take me two or three days, and after this I will be free for 4 months. So don't worry I've been or still be a little late to reply to messages recently
Don't worry sysko.
Happy holidays :)
Don't worry, be sysko!
I truly want to congratulate our contributors fanty and Amastan for getting Lithuanian and Berber, in a short time, in the 27th and 29th positions respectively
it's been an outstanding achievement!
Also I'm following this with a lot of admiration.
It would be great if Tatoeba could become a prime resource for Berber !
Marcelostockle
Alexander
Sacredceltic
Thank you very much for your encouragement :-D
I'm very happy and proud to contribute to the Tatoeba project which I find great :-)
Sacredceltic: yes, my friend, Tatoeba can become a prime resource for Berber ;-) I have invited some of my friends and I hope they will join me soon ;-)
Tanemmirt (Thank you)
Bravo! Let's make Tatoeba REALLY international!
El buscador tiene algun problema?
No puedo encontrar esta frase usandolo.
http://tatoeba.org/spa/sentences/show/1572070
Buscando por .. no sale:
=Terminaremos
=Empezado
"empezado a construir"
La frase no es nueva, ya deberia esta actualizada.
Have Searcher any problem?
I cannot find this sentence.
http://tatoeba.org/spa/sentences/show/1572070
Sysko please. Are there database problems?
I Cannot find this sentence.
http://tatoeba.org/spa/sentences/show/1620595
y search by:
Me pierna
tires pierna.
Thanks Sysko.
de hecho pienso que son muy nuevas
yo he tenido que pasar varios meses antes de poder encontrar así una frase
Yo pensaba que se actualizaba cada semana. Cuando se hacia disponible una actulización del corpus descargable. Creo que eran los viernes.
I think we should add Piedmontese language (Piemontèis/lenga piemontèisa) to the language menu. Piemontèis, although not recognized as official by the italian government, is an actual language still spoken by a lot of people in the Piedmont region in northwestern Italy. It has a grammar and vocabulary of its own with substantial differences with the italian ones.
Please add Piemontèis language and I'll contribute with many sentences and translations directly from native speakers.
Thank you
But please note that the FAQ is out of date, now you should contact but sysko, not Trang (the email is same thoug, team@tatoeba.org).
thank you!
sent the e-mail.
though I can't seem to understand very well the third step... do you know where I should go to add these new 5 sentences?
thanks
You have to add sentences here, on Tatoeba. :)
You can add new sentences here:
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/add
(Choose any language right now; it will be changed later)
Or you can just add translations of other sentences.
Thank you again
now if you're interested you can check the new list Piemontèis :)
It has an ISO code (pms), so it can be added.
Please refer to the FAQ:
http://tatoeba.org/eng/faq#new-language