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sabretou sabretou September 5, 2016 at 3:04 PM September 5, 2016 at 3:04 PM link permalink

So... has anyone noticed that the flag of Láadan is the Drupal logo? I can't find any reason to link Láadan and Drupal other than that what might be the "official" website for Láadan is powered by Drupal.

I think we should replace it with a more generic flag.

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RobinvanderVliet RobinvanderVliet September 5, 2016 at 5:53 PM September 5, 2016 at 5:53 PM link permalink

I noticed that too. It uses the Drupal logo because the official website about the language is run on Drupal and they did not change the default Drupal logo. I don't think there is a Láadan flag (yet).

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Ricardo14 Ricardo14 September 5, 2016 at 8:30 PM September 5, 2016 at 8:30 PM link permalink

Is there a "language icon" that you think it would represent better this language?

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Objectivesea Objectivesea September 5, 2016 at 9:37 PM September 5, 2016 at 9:37 PM link permalink

Well, the original creator of Láadan, the linguist and writer Suzette Haden Elgin, unfortunately passed away last year. I've drawn up a provisional idea for a Láadan flag, two versions of which you can see at my Dropbox account.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qbmvj...n%201.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2rlt6...n%202.png?dl=0

I've also sent a note to the Láadan Working Group with those links, and I hope they respond either approvingly, with their preferred colours, or with a design of their own.

http://www.laadanlanguage.org/

Raizin Raizin September 6, 2016 at 12:14 AM, edited September 6, 2016 at 12:15 AM September 6, 2016 at 12:14 AM, edited September 6, 2016 at 12:15 AM link permalink

After some googling I found out that the first (and possibly only?) official publication describing Láadan looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/HlJayUG.jpg

I think that bird on the cover might be fitting to use as Láadan's icon. Here's an example I threw together of what it could look like as a 30x20 pixel Tatoeba flag icon: http://i.imgur.com/Qp8njCs.png
It's a little small, but it still looks recognizable.

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CK CK September 6, 2016 at 12:53 AM, edited October 30, 2019 at 11:02 AM September 6, 2016 at 12:53 AM, edited October 30, 2019 at 11:02 AM link permalink

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Objectivesea Objectivesea September 6, 2016 at 11:02 AM September 6, 2016 at 11:02 AM link permalink

Another idea — I took the basic bird motif Raizin provided and redrew it in Adobe Illustrator with fairly bold, slightly simplified lines so that the bird is more recognizable at smaller sizes.

Here's an image from my artwork:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/undoq...large.png?dl=0

And here it is at the 30x20 size it would actually be used at. I think it is at least recognizable as a bird.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ffsbs...ixels.png?dl=0

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Raizin Raizin September 7, 2016 at 3:29 PM September 7, 2016 at 3:29 PM link permalink

That IS more recognizable as a bird, but much less regocnizable as the bird on the Láadan book. The shape and colors are different, and the branch is missing. Keeping the same silhouette and similar colors is crucial, if we want Láadan speakers and enthusiasts to recognize it as the bird from the book cover.

I think it would be a better idea to augment the original image to have bolder lines and clearer shapes. For example like this: http://i.imgur.com/2n6wrnZ.png

Ricardo14 Ricardo14 September 8, 2016 at 1:22 AM, edited September 8, 2016 at 2:11 AM September 8, 2016 at 1:22 AM, edited September 8, 2016 at 2:11 AM link permalink

I opened an issue on GitHub - https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/1303 - and I've started working on it.
This language was added in June - https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/1173

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Pull Request: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/pull/1304