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Sentence #1379459

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Vortarulo Vortarulo February 28, 2013 February 28, 2013 at 8:38:26 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Please correct this one into a sentence.

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der February 28, 2013 February 28, 2013 at 9:13:24 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Tute aparte de la origina demando mi atentigas, ke
"-u" ne egalas al "devi -i". Inter ambaŭ estas klara signifo diferenco.
Egalas "plenumu" kaj "vi plenumu" (La maleblo de miskompreno ĉi tie permesas forigi la subjekton sen ŝanĝi la signifon).

Tio tamen ne pledas kontraŭ diskuteblo de klarigo per ordona i-formo.

Unuavide al mi ŝajnas pli facile interpreti (ekzemple) "Ne fumi!" kiel (gramatike reduktitan, sed akcepteblan) frazon, ĉar "sian" kvazaŭ petegas pri antaŭa mencio de subjekto.

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der February 28, 2013 February 28, 2013 at 9:25:17 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Postskribaĵo: Mi skribis "-u" ne egalas al "devi -i"
elirante de la konstato, ke "-u" esprimas subjektivan sugeston,deziron aŭ ordonon dum kontraste "devi" esprimas (realan aŭ asertatan) objektivan neceson. (Mi koncedas, ke mi nunmomente ne estas certa kaj ne povas kontroli ĉu tiu distingo estas ĝenerale akceptata aŭ ne. La lingvopraktiko ŝajnas subteni tian distingon.)

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #1379458Plenumi sian devon..

Cumprir com o seu dever.

added by sysko, January 20, 2012

linked by sysko, January 20, 2012