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teskmon teskmon May 31, 2012 May 31, 2012 at 3:47:49 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

A few days ago there were about 171500 English sentences but today there are only 48325 sentences. What's the reason for that?

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sysko sysko June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 12:09:54 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

bug in the database due to a crash, actually it was only the number displayed which was wrong, the sentences are still all here :) and now it should be fixed.

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teskmon teskmon June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 12:14:56 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Ok, great!

Former member Former member May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 7:54:27 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

mistakecorrecter pwnz sacredceltic's mother

sacredceltic's prostitute mother had sex with a chimp and she gave birth to a homosexual chimp called sacredceltic.

sacredceltic's mother is a chimp, too.

Sacredceltic's mother belongs to me.
I 0wn3d her.
I pwn3d her.
Fuk ya Sacredceltic

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jakov jakov May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:44:35 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

BTW, could you tell me what software you used last time to spam my inbox. I would really like to know how to send messages through the tatoeba messaging system as there are some really usefull features that could be implemented that way.

Here you are yet another way you could recover your trust.

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Demetrius Demetrius June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 3:33:38 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

BTW it's very easy to send automated messages with existing software like wget.

Just use Firebug to get your credentials in a cookie and the fields that should be set, and use wget (or the software you use). I've used this to mass-tag proverbs some time ago.

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jakov jakov June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 4:03:54 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I would need a way to do this in javascript through a userscript or (as sysko just asked me to help with the webinterface) directly from the website.

How dis you accomPlish the mass tagging? Did you create a list and add the tag to all items in the list?

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Demetrius Demetrius June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 4:13:42 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I guess this is doable through userscript, but I'm not sure...


All you have to do is to send a POST request to http://tatoeba.org/eng/private_messages/send with the following fields:
{
"_method": "POST", // (dunno if this is really neccessary, but, to be on the safe side...)
"data[PrivateMessage][content]": text,
"data[PrivateMessage][recpt]": username,
"data[PrivateMessage][title]": message_title
}

BUT you also must send user cookies. I dunno how AJAX handles cookies, maybe they will be sent automatically(?).

> How dis you accomPlish the mass tagging? Did you create a list and add the tag to all items in the list?
Yes, I've created a text file with sentence IDs. It's much faster than opening each page and typing the tag text, though more error-prone.

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jakov jakov June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 4:33:33 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

That s exactly what i ve already tried, but it didnt work. Maybe because of the cookie information that s missing! I ll try to get that cookie info and also send it, thanks for the tip!

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Demetrius Demetrius June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 4:48:35 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I can't find any info on cookies in AJAX, maybe maybe XMLHttpRequest just doesn't allow using cookies? :(

BTW, for me, the following cookies are sent: '__utma', '__utmz', 'CakeCookie[User]', 'CakeCookie[hash_last_com]', 'CakeCookie[contribute_lang]', 'CAKEPHP', 'CakeCookie[interfaceLanguage]', '__utmb', '__utmc'. I don't know which ones are really neccessary and which ones can be omited.

jakov jakov May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:41:59 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Are you going to spam my inbox again, if I point out to you, that this is senseless behavior?

Come on, grow up a little and do some stuff that's usefull! I know your going to (try to) reregister after being banned again, so maybe next time you don't misbehave?

There's no sense in adding automatic translations, when you can use google for that. BUT YOU DO KNOW AT LEAST ONE LANGUAGE, SO LIMIT YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE LANGUAGES YOU REALLY KNOW!

This is going to be the very last time that i will try to convince you of useful behaviour (and most certainly waste my time). Keep in mind that all your contributions will be probably deleted, since you cannot be trusted FOR NOW.

IF YOU CHANGE YOUR BEHAVIOUR AND NO ONE NOTICES THAT ITS YOU, YOU GET A TRUSTED CONTRIBUTOR TO TATOEBA.

jakov jakov May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:57:42 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

How old or damaged are you?

Until now we only know that you like popstars. Maybe you should write about yourself in your profile so we can START A THERAPY. This is not meant rude, but it seems true.

What else do you do apart from destroying good things on the web? Have you watched the intro video? Do you even know why we are all doing this here?!?

Nero Nero May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 9:11:12 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

"corrector" is how it is correctly spelt.

Former member Former member May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:54:35 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

mistakecorrecter pwnz sacredceltic's and jakov's mother

sacredceltic's and jakov's prostitute mother had sex with a chimp and she gave birth to homosexual chimps called sacredceltic and jakov.

sacredceltic's and jakov's mother is a chimp, too.

Sacredceltic's and Jakov's mother belongs to me.
I 0wn3d them.
I pwn3d them.
Fuk ya Sacredceltic and Jakov

sacredceltic sacredceltic May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 7:52:45 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Please read an excerpt of young Turkish kindness

Bonvolu legi ekzemplo de juna turka bonkoro

Veuillez lire un exemple de jeune bienveillance turque

http://tatoeba.org/fre/user/pro...stakecorrecter

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jakov jakov May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:32:18 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Btw, I think we should delete all accounts that dont have any contributions (e.g. see in the users index[1], those which have randomly looking usernames)!

As there are maybe some, who were interested, but didnt understand the project, we should write them an e-mail that says that they're welcome to register again if they want so (and link to the [help page][2] for further information). The spammers won't care about our message.

[1]: http://tatoeba.org/deu/users/all/page:728
[2]: http://tatoeba.org/deu/help

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jakov jakov May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:34:47 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

And we should employ an official time limit (e.g. a few month) so such profiles will be deleted automatically (or manually, but regularly).

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Shadd Shadd June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 1:56:07 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

+1

sacredceltic sacredceltic May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:48:33 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Out of the 14000+ accounts on Tatoeba, 8000+ have been created by boracasli, through different scripts...

Nero Nero June 1, 2012 June 1, 2012 at 6:41:45 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

The account "justinbieber" is most probably him.

jakov jakov May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:53:52 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Our relatives seem to havee a lot in common ;)

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sacredceltic sacredceltic May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 9:13:07 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Obviously...

When his are just specific to his region...

jakov jakov May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:26:21 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

my next project might be a ban script ;)

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sacredceltic sacredceltic May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:50:14 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Now you're on his profile as well.
This brat is really freaking. That tells a lot on the violence in his environment...

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sacredceltic sacredceltic May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:54:50 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

The same people who call for rape and murder just deny it without winking an eye a hundred years later...

jakov jakov May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 8:49:37 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I thought about the SPAM thing:

I propose that also PMs should be delivered directly, *but* there should be a time-limit and a ceiling for new messages: e.g. a maximum of 10 messages per hour should be deliverd directly, about the rest you will only be notified like "you have 300 new messages" (which then are probably SPAM). I recommend that the values be changeable by the user or better increase with the recent activity (as you expect someones reaction then).

marcelostockle marcelostockle May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 5:17:03 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Feature request:
could anyone (@jakov) make this simple script:
- Hide translations:
When this script is running, the TEXT (not flags, nothing else, simply the text) from all translations to every sentence on screen disappears. All translations to a sentence are toggled visible by pressing a button.

I wish I had this, so when I feel like practicing, I grab a notebook, run the script, and then "Oh, I see this sentence is translated to German, but I can't see it translated yet. I'll try translating it myself first, and then see if they match."
What about it? I guess the script should be no big deal :P

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jakov jakov May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 9:15:26 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Have you tried my my userscript [Tatoeba Use Custom Flags And Other Langs Transparent][1]?

there you have an option to make certain languages transparent. I will make a toggle button for this transparency.

[1]: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/101631

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marcelostockle marcelostockle May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 1:41:55 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

oh, I see
I'll try that one

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jakov jakov May 29, 2012 May 29, 2012 at 9:01:44 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

You can give me feedback on what you think about the script and tell me how you think your feature request would be implemented best.

jakov jakov May 28, 2012 May 28, 2012 at 11:05:13 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Request for script integration
========================

I would request as a feature, that there should be textarea where the user can copy javascript which will be executed every time.

Them we could make *[Userscripts]* much more user-friendly. Other users lime me should be able to publish their scripts and enable the users to easily use them by just activating a checkbox.

This time it's really serve side. Of course *greasemonkey*, *blank canvas handler* and *ninjakit* are an option, but i guess these are only for the nerds and many users might not want to have to install something.

So please: For the first we would just need a textarea with a save button. The content should be put into a script tag.

[Userscripts]: http://userscripts.org

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jakov jakov May 28, 2012 May 28, 2012 at 11:08:52 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Scripts that work this way should be easily integrateable for all users if accepted by the admin. However, greasemonkey scripts work quite differently as they use nin javascript features and often need tedious workaround just for not beeing executed on the page itself.

Amastan Amastan May 28, 2012 May 28, 2012 at 11:12:06 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Hi everbody,

I have sent a request to Sysko in order to add my language, Berber (Amazigh - North Africa) to the website. Now I am waiting for the language to be added. However I have a question: can I add more than the 10 requested sentences in my language even if it's not yet one of Tatoeba's recognized languages ? In other words, can I add an unlimited number of sentences in my language at the present stage ?

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sacredceltic sacredceltic May 28, 2012 May 28, 2012 at 11:43:38 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Yes, of course !

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Amastan Amastan May 28, 2012 May 28, 2012 at 11:47:24 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Saceredceltic:

TANEMMIRT S TUSSDA - which translates as "THANK YOU VERY MUCH" in my language :-D

marcelostockle marcelostockle May 27, 2012 May 27, 2012 at 9:45:35 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

the sentence counters in
http://tatoeba.org/deu/stats/sentences_by_language
don't correspond with the effective number of sentences

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sacredceltic sacredceltic May 27, 2012 May 27, 2012 at 10:31:01 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

It's one of the classic retaliation schemes of boracasli...

sacredceltic sacredceltic May 27, 2012 May 27, 2012 at 5:19:09 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

mistakecorrecter aka boracasli has posted 50010 messages in my inbox...

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Nero Nero May 27, 2012 May 27, 2012 at 9:04:23 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

And now I've got 40236 messages, as well as many sentences devoted to me. I feel special.

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sacredceltic sacredceltic May 27, 2012 May 27, 2012 at 10:29:05 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Well, I got used to being insulted by nutters...

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marcelostockle marcelostockle May 28, 2012 May 28, 2012 at 1:07:27 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

that's the internetz

sacredceltic sacredceltic May 28, 2012 May 28, 2012 at 10:37:19 AM UTC flag Report link Permalink

What is fascinating is the analysis of the corpus of insults. It revolves obsessively around whores & lesbians. I think it tells a lot on the sexist mentality and culture of these kids...I wouldn't want to be the mother or sister of such brats.

shanghainese shanghainese May 27, 2012 May 27, 2012 at 8:28:55 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Not again. Why is there no instant ban?

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Nero Nero May 27, 2012 May 27, 2012 at 9:14:04 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

sysko is the only one with the ability to and he is not online.

Nero Nero May 27, 2012 May 27, 2012 at 6:59:35 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

I've also deleted several of his sentences, visible in my log.

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sacredceltic sacredceltic May 27, 2012 May 27, 2012 at 7:44:14 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Merci !